I guess it is astounding to me that as good as Galen Rupp is, he'd have his hands full trying to defeat Lagat at 5000m. Lagat is as good as any U.S. runner currently at 5000m and he is turning 40 in just over 3 months.
How is this even possible? Who would be certain to beat Lagat among U.S. runners? The answer is nobody.
Age graded, Lagat's performance is "worth" a 12:24 5K for someone in their mid 20s
He's a legend. His longevity on the track is unrivaled.
YEAH BUT the 'A' SAMPLE TEST AND KENYAN AGE CHEATING and ignoring everything else means nothing he's ever done will ever mean anything, right!?
In all seriousness, I'm totally blown away by him. Completely rewriting everything we thought we knew about human aging. I really hope he holds on for two more years until Rio. What a Sweet retirement that would be.
age graded tables are off by several %.
they've been wrong for eons.
Lagat is more than 8 years older than Alan Webb, and you know Galen Rupp won't be able to break 14 minutes in another 11 years...
GrastonFTW wrote:
Age graded, Lagat's performance is "worth" a 12:24 5K for someone in their mid 20s
There's no need to do any age grading. 40yrs old is not that old and with a smart training you can be at the same shape as in your mid 20s. Just very few runners can keep their motivation to train (as in their mid 20s] for that long.
Yeah. Lagat is awesome. Rupp is as well. But I don't know who would have won head to head in a championship final. I lean towards Lagat though because of World Indoors and Berlin performance.
Even more impressive considering rampant age cheating in Kenya: his real age could be closer to 50.
mako wrote:
GrastonFTW wrote:Age graded, Lagat's performance is "worth" a 12:24 5K for someone in their mid 20s
There's no need to do any age grading. 40yrs old is not that old and with a smart training you can be at the same shape as in your mid 20s. Just very few runners can keep their motivation to train (as in their mid 20s] for that long.
No, you are really in need of an education. Seriously. You CANNOT be in the same shape at 40 that you were in in your mid 20s. You really need to educate yourself.
Lagat could likely have run 12:40 in his 20s.
12:50 probably. He was behind ElG in the 1500m who "only"
managed 12:48.
Is Lagat into yoga?
yyy wrote:
12:50 probably. He was behind ElG in the 1500m who "only"
managed 12:48.
Is Lagat into yoga?
ElG never ran 12:48, but he did run 12:50. ElG never really trained to run his fastest 5000m. When I say that Lagat could have likely run 12:40 in his 20s, I mean he had the physical gifts to do so. Lagat never trained to run his fastest 5000m until he was past his prime.
crusherver wrote:
No, you are really in need of an education. Seriously. You CANNOT be in the same shape at 40 that you were in in your mid 20s. You really need to educate yourself.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. And damn rude too. Check yourself.
I've always read that Lagat is relatively low mileage for an elite runner. An element to his longevity?
You can't age grade Lagat using data from mortals.
I think it is safe to say that the correct age grading of his 13:06 is 12:37. Well at least until he runs sub 13:06 next year...
Yeah mako and bad wiggins y'all are just straight up ignant. There are literally zero people in the world who are in AS GOOD of shape in their 40s as they are between 23-27. Name one.
And not some anomaly who didn't train at all in their 20s and just got into the sport in their 30s or 40s. I'm talking a true elite who trained hard in their 20s all the way to their 40s.
Lagat is this year's US champion.
Rupp will be world ranked top 5 in the 5000 this year. Lagat will not be ranked top 10.
They haven't raced each other this year.
Yes Rupp would have his hands full. I just wouldn't say that Lagat is as good as Rupp right now. But he's pretty good.
Gebrselassie put up amazing times at age 39:
27:20 for 10,000 and 2:08:17 for the marathon.
He hasn't posted times in those events since turning 40 last year. But did run a nice 1:09:09 half at age 40.
Star wrote:
Lagat is this year's US champion.
Rupp will be world ranked top 5 in the 5000 this year. Lagat will not be ranked top 10.
They haven't raced each other this year.
Yes Rupp would have his hands full. I just wouldn't say that Lagat is as good as Rupp right now. But he's pretty good.
Gebrselassie put up amazing times at age 39:
27:20 for 10,000 and 2:08:17 for the marathon.
He hasn't posted times in those events since turning 40 last year. But did run a nice 1:09:09 half at age 40.
1:09:09 half? I think that he could jog that backwards in his sleep.
Sorry. 1:01:09 half for Geb.
Better than the top American last year, Ritz who ran 1:01:10.
age graded tables are off by several %.
they've been wrong for ages.