She asked what was Obama's plan. Today Obama admitted that he still doesn't have a plan.
She asked what was Obama's plan. Today Obama admitted that he still doesn't have a plan.
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Ms. Palin is very attractive.
Todd is, let's be frank, a lucky man.
Breitbart? LOL!!
Dear terser wrote:
Breitbart? LOL!!
What does that mean? Are you autistic?
autistic kid wrote:
Dear terser wrote:Breitbart? LOL!!
What does that mean? Are you autistic?
I have Asberger's. What's it to ya?
of course Palin predicted it after all she could see Russia from her window.
coach wrote:
of course Palin predicted it after all she could see Russia from her window.
You do know she never said that. Once Tina Fey said that line on Saturday Night Live, it somehow stuck.
yes, Sarah actually said that Russia is a neighbor and can be seen from an island off the coast. And yes her prescient comment on why this fact gave her credibility for dealing with issues of foreign affairs has come true. What a shame she is not making decisions for our government.
ignorance abounds wrote:
coach wrote:of course Palin predicted it after all she could see Russia from her window.
You do know she never said that. Once Tina Fey said that line on Saturday Night Live, it somehow stuck.
That's okay...she never said Russia would invade Ukraine either.
Palin is only attractive if you like contrived frozen painted on looks. We are very lucky she holds on elective office.
Well, considering that she did make the comment on Russia and Ukraine, I'd say that she might actually be a little sharper than the pea-brain lib's who couldn't see it coming... ahem.
At least she understands and accepts evolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDrhVR8d2Gk
"After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next"
Not exactly predicting that would happen, is it?
Dear terser wrote:
Breitbart? LOL!!
Is that all you have you idiot? Really? Everything Obama has predicted has been wrong. Everything. The guy is the stupidest person to ever occupy the White House. I am pretty sure he snorts cocaine in the Oval Office and it is a pretty well known fact that he has many gay lovers come in for his gay trysts.
If it’s Ukraine and there’s a press conference going on these days, you can pretty much count on there being a spurious claim of a Russian invasion, which NATO and Western media will quickly parrot, but which none of them has any real proof for.
Today’s “Russian invasion,” one of several in the past week alone, involves over 1,000 Russian ground troops, at least two columns of tanks, and as is so often the case, not a single credible photograph.
NATO piled on, as they are wont to do, and tweeted out an extremely blurry satellite photo which they claimed showed some sort of Russian vehicles on a road that could conceivably be in Eastern Ukraine.
Media outlets reporting the invasion as absolute fact didn’t let their lack of photographic evidence get in the way, and rather recycled stock photos of Ukrainian military vehicles for the sake of making the article look like there’s a lot of vehicles involved.
Russia was quick to deny the invasion, sparking a lot of cable news speculation of Russian deception, though the startling array of Ukrainian claims of “vanishing” tank columns and massive numbers of killed Russians that are never substantiated suggest that anything coming out of Kiev has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Wrong thread, K5. Please take your nutjob conspiracy theories...oops, sorry, I meant "facts"....elsewhere.
K5 detector wrote:
Wrong thread, K5. Please take your nutjob conspiracy theories...oops, sorry, I meant "facts"....elsewhere.
You need to ask yourself why you need to call documented facts "nutjob conspiracy theories". Any ideas? I know why if you care to be enlightened.
Here are some more facts that you don't want to know:
ISRAELI CITIZENS HOLD KEY US GOV’T POSITIONS
AUGUST 21, 2014
Press TV has learned that a long list of senior US government officials and legislators hold dual US-Israeli citizenship, proving Tel Aviv’s powerful influence over Washington’s decision-making process.
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The prominent US-Israeli officials in the list during the Bush presidency include:
Attorney General Michael Mukasey,
Head of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff,
Chairman of Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board Richard Perle,
former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowits,
Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith,
National Security Advisor Elliot Abrams,
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten,
Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Marc Grossman,
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department Richard Haass,
US Trade Representative (cabinet-level position) Robert Zoellick,
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board Eliot Cohen,
White House Political Director Ken Melman,
White House Speechwriter David Frum,
Deputy Secretary of Commerce Samuel Bodman, and
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board Henry Kissinger.
Israel receives billions of dollars of American taxpayers’ money each year. Under an existing 10-year aid agreement between Washington and Tel Aviv signed in 2007, USD 30 billion of American money is flowing to Israel.
The US’ annual military aid to Israel has been elevated from USD 2.4 billion to USD 3.1 billion through 2017 under the existing agreement
Israel and 911 wrote:
K5 detector wrote:Wrong thread, K5. Please take your nutjob conspiracy theories...oops, sorry, I meant "facts"....elsewhere.
You need to ask yourself why you need to call documented facts "nutjob conspiracy theories". Any ideas? I know why if you care to be enlightened.
Documented facts? Did you even read that shit before you copied and pasted it? It's full of "ifs", "maybes", "couldas", and wild guesses regarding redacted material. There are few, if any, documented facts in your plagiarized post.
And you complain when someone points out your lack of reading comprehension? Laughable.
Despite strident denials this week by Israeli officials, Israel has been caught carrying out aggressive espionage operations against American targets for decades, according to U.S. intelligence officials and congressional sources. And they still do it. They just don’t get arrested very often.
As Newsweek reported on Tuesday, American counter-intelligence officials told members of the House Judiciary and Foreign Affairs committees at the end of January that Israel's current espionage activities in America are "unrivaled and unseemly," going far beyond the activities of other close allies, such as Germany, France, the U.K. and Japan.
“It has been extensive for years,” a former top U.S. security official told Newsweek Wednesday after Israeli Intelligence Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz, among other top Israeli officials, “unequivocally” denied the Newsweek report, saying Israel stopped all spying operations in the U.S. after Jonathan Pollard was convicted of spying for Israel in 1987. One anonymous official was quoted in the Israeli media as saying Newsweek’s account “had the whiff of anti-Semitism in it.”
But a former U.S. intelligence operative intimately familiar with Israeli espionage rejected the anti-Semitism charge. “There is a small community of ex-CIA, FBI and military people who have worked this account who are absolutely cheering on [the Newsweek] story,” he said. “Not one of them is anti-Semitic. In fact, it has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. It has only to do with why [Israel] gets kid-glove treatment when, if it was Japan doing it or India doing it at this level, it would be outrageous.”
Beginning in the mid-1990s, well after Israel promised to stop spying in the U.S. in the wake of the Pollard affair, the FBI regularly felt compelled to summon Israeli diplomats in D.C. for a scolding, two former top counterintelligence officials told Newsweek. During the decade following 9/11, one said, the Israelis were summoned “dozens” of times and told to “cut the sh*t,” as one, a former top FBI official, put it. But as an “ally,” the Israelis almost always got off with only a warning.
But no matter how stern the FBI’s lecture – usually delivered personally to the embassy’s senior intelligence representative – the Israelis were unmoved, another former top intelligence official said. “You can't embarrass an Israeli,” he said. “It’s just impossible to embarrass them. You catch them red-handed, and they shrug and say, 'Okay now, anything else?'”
Always lurking, former intelligence officials say, was the powerful “Israeli lobby,” the network of Israel’s friends in Congress, industry and successive administrations, Republican and Democratic, ready to protest any perceived slight on the part of U.S. security officials. A former counterintelligence specialist told Newsweek he risked Israel’s wrath merely by providing routine security briefings to American officials, businessmen and scientists heading to Israel for meetings and conferences.
“We had to be very careful how we warned American officials,” he said. “We regularly got calls from members of Congress outraged by security warnings about going to Israel. And they had our budget. When ... the director of the CIA gets a call from an outraged congressman–’What are these security briefings you're giving? What are these high-level threat warnings about travel to Tel Aviv you're giving? This is outrageous’ – he has to pay close attention. There was always this political delicacy that you had to be aware of.”
The annual exercise in which the State Department publishes security profiles on foreign countries gave the intelligence agencies huge headaches, he added. “When we were doing the annual threat rating for the U.S. Embassy and consulates [in Israel], it was always a huge debate,” he said. “The intelligence community would always be urging the highest level of threats, while the State Department would be saying, ‘This is not going to go over very well, we can't give this kind of rating, because there will be certain consequences in terms of travel warnings and restrictions.’ It was always a big, big debate on how you rate the threat over there.”
But the danger is real, he and other former U.S. intelligence officials familiar with Israel’s methods say. Israeli agents “go after senior U.S. Navy officers on shore leave in Haifa, after space industry officials, or scientists with intellectual property, anywhere. This has always been a huge concern for the community.”
In the States, Israeli officials and businessmen are forever trying to lure attractive American targets to visit Israel. Representatives of Maf’at, an administrative body that yokes the Israel Defense Ministry to its military industries, give U.S. counterintelligence agencies great concern, one of the former U.S. intelligence officials said. "They were the ones that really caused us a lot of concern. Because they had a plausible reason to attend all these conferences and defense contracting facilities and whatnot. It was a great cover vehicle for industrial espionage,” he said.
“I remember speaking to one U.S. scientist who was at a conference and being worked by a group from [Israel],” the former U.S. intelligence operative continued. “And this scientist, who was savvy enough to recognize what she saw, said it was really unbelievable how the elicitation techniques were being used – the invitations to come over – basically getting the data dump from a fellow scientist. And the naïveté on the part of the American scientists was really striking. We saw this all the time.”
Israeli officials were brazen enough to pitch even him. After giving a speech at a recent security industry gathering in Washington, he said, he was approached by the commercial attaché of the Israeli Embassy. “He said, ‘Oh, it was great to hear your background, that was a great talk you gave, how interesting,’ and so forth. And I thought, Here it comes, here comes the pitch. And sure enough, he said, ‘Have you ever thought of coming over? We'd love to have you come over, we’ll pay all your expenses while you're over there, we'll give you the tour…’ I thought to myself, Come on guys, come on.”
“Their goal,” he continued, “is to get contacts to come out of the U.S. and over there and then wine them, dine them, assess them, see what their weaknesses are. I mean, we had government officials going over there who were offered drugs, like, ‘Hey, do you want to go get some pot?’ What? These are U.S. government officials. The drugs, women coming to your hotel room – they throw everything at you. No matter how high the official.”
On Wednesday, Israeli Intelligence Minister Yuval Steinitz batted away such espionage allegations, saying “Israel does not spy in the U.S., does not enlist spies in the U.S., and does not do intelligence gathering in the U.S.” Likewise, Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman said he “would not agree to any spying on the United States, neither directly nor indirectly.” He called the allegations, attributed by Newsweek to intelligence officials who have briefed Congress, “malicious.”
But current and former U.S. intelligence officials stood their ground.
“It really spans the gamut of everything you can think of,” said a former U.S. intelligence official who has been a familiar face in the executive suites of several U.S. security agencies over the decades. “It used to be when French students came to the United States as interns, summer employees and things like that, they all had a French DGSE officer they had to report back to at the embassy,” he said. “Similar things occur with respect to the Israelis … [who] have a lot of Israeli travelers in the United States."
Such blanket accusations infuriate defenders of Israel, who detect that “whiff of anti-Semitism” in them. Current and former U.S. intelligence officials who opposed Pollard’s early release were also accused of anti-Semitism.
The high number of young Israelis who overstay their visits to the U.S. has been a sticking point in Israel’s drive to get off the U.S. visa-required list. Another is its failure to regularly report lost and stolen passports to Interpol. A bigger issue has been its rough treatment of Arab Americans and pro-Palestinian activists travelling to Israel. But Israeli efforts to pursue U.S. military, scientific and industrial secrets has also emerged as a major hurdle, if not the major hurdle, in normalizing visa relations, according to congressional sources.
“I was in this briefing — there were several” on Israeli espionage by U.S. security officials in 2013, a former congressional aide told Newsweek. “The one I was in had senior staffers from foreign affairs, the full committee, the subcommittee ... from judiciary, Republicans and Democrats, senior leadership staff. I don’t think there was anyone in there who didn’t work for a member that wasn’t ardently and publicly pro-Israel,” he said.
“And afterwards, we were saying, ‘No way. You’ve got to be f&cking kidding.’” The evidence of Israeli spying was overwhelming, he said. Visa waivers was off the table.
“The voices in the room,” the aide recalled, were, “‘There’s just no way that this is possible.’”