Will I be faster if I increase my easy pace?

First off, there's no way you ran those race times with only running 8:00 pace for 40mpw.

Second, if you're running those race times, your easy pace could stand to be a little faster. Probably closer to 7:00.

Third, you won't get that much faster unless you start doing workouts.

No Way wrote:

First off, there's no way you ran those race times with only running 8:00 pace for 40mpw.

Second, if you're running those race times, your easy pace could stand to be a little faster. Probably closer to 7:00.

Third, you won't get that much faster unless you start doing workouts.

This.

My easy pace is around 8:00-8:15 and my PRs are 19:40/41:20

You put a lot of thought into this troll effort, I see.

Should have left out "No real hard workouts" or been ambiguous about your quality efforts.

I run track workouts, but they are not hard. 6x1000 at 10k pace for example. In total, my mileage is 40 mpw.

No way a 15,30 runner will be 75% mhr at 8 min pace.?

1/10

The idea of this thread has merit. It is sad that you guys can't look past the obviously discrepancy between PRs and run time and give solid feedback.

Who is the bigger troll the OP, the responders who can't even answer the question, or the guy who thinks he's cool by posting 1/10.

My stance is that if your HR tells you that is easy pace then that is easy pace. There are times in your annual training plan when you should definitely run at a consistent pace not based off of HR which should probably be faster than your easy HR determined pace. This time period should drive some level of improvement, but running at easy HR pace will also drive improvement in its own way. Push the pace too fast and for too long (be that in the run or over a period of weeks) and you will find overuse injuries starting to bite you consistently.

I don't think I'm cool posting 1/10. Don't you know a troll thread when you see one?

I am not a troll. This is real. Maybe you have never worn a heart rate monitor?

Probably I am naturally more speed oriented, but I don't understand that I run so slow at 75% of max. My teammates that are equally fast as me at 5k run ~7:00/mile at 75% max.

sorry for my english.

then there is the question of wether your percentaje of maximum heart rate is accurate or not. Probably you are running at 60, or maybe even 50%.

my max is 200, I run at 150, that's 75%.

Consider retesting your max HR

Back in the day, trolling used to mean something

It's not just the discrepancy in his PRs, it's that your easy pace shouldn't even be monitored.

So you certainly don't need to calculate how many seconds per mile to increase your easy pace.

If you're more fit you may have a faster easy pace, but you shouldn't increase your easy pace to make you more fit.

How long have you been wearing the heart rate monitor?

For 4 years.

How do you know your HRmax? Someone else already asked this but you didn't answer. If you are estimating it based on a formula (220-age for example) then this is likely at the crux of the matter. If you've actually measured it properly to be 200, then I agree with others that there's something fishy. With your race times, you should be at 7:00 or faster at 75% of HRmax, unless you are really, really undeveloped aerobically,

And actually, looking at your race time profile (and considering your weekly mileage), it does look very much that you are underdeveloped aerobically. I'd suggest if anything, rather than rushing to increase your easy pace, if you want to improve your times, then increase your volume, add some solid long runs, and add some tempo and/or long interval work.

V1per41 wrote:

No Way wrote:

First off, there's no way you ran those race times with only running 8:00 pace for 40mpw.

Second, if you're running those race times, your easy pace could stand to be a little faster. Probably closer to 7:00.

Third, you won't get that much faster unless you start doing workouts.

This.

My easy pace is around 8:00-8:15 and my PRs are 19:40/41:20

My pace is about 7:45 +/- 15 seconds and my pr is 16:49 ( I felt like I was in 16:30 shape that season but could not find the right race). I think that this guy is trolling but I do know guys who have run this fast with low mileage like that and very intense workouts.