The MD's excited about his cure: wants to be grateful to the 'almighty.' I have no problem with it.
However, he should be crediting the care in Atlanta and the vaccine that was availableonly to the two Americans. Otherwise he does not do much for rational thinking, giving false hope to dimwits.
Fear is a powerful emotion
Did they also thank the Almighty for giving them the disease?
Yeah, let's make fun of people who happen to believe something you don't.
He probably believes that God's hand helped the development of the vaccine. Deal with it.
Belief in the absence of evidence is indeed laughable.
Well, That's faith.
loqueelvientoajuarez wrote:
Belief in the absence of evidence is indeed laughable.
If your synapses were in working order you would realize that the notion of evidence, either for or against the god hypothesis is laughable.
If you're going to pretend to be smarter and better than others at least get your facts right. He didn't receive a vaccine, received a medication consisting of monoclonal antibodies.
I suppose he thinks the 1000s that are dying without this medicine are dying because they don't believe as much as him.
Trent wrote:
The MD's excited about his cure: wants to be grateful to the 'almighty.' I have no problem with it.
However, he should be crediting the care in Atlanta and the vaccine that was availableonly to the two Americans. Otherwise he does not do much for rational thinking, giving false hope to dimwits.
Quoted from Dr Brantly's public statement, ". . . through the care of the Samaritan's Purse and SIM missionary team in Liberia, an experimental drug, and the expertise and resources of the health care team at the Emory University Hospital, God saved my life . . ."
So did some Flying Spaghetti Monster use everyone in the medicinal assembly line as puppets, or do researchers have enough free will to decide what ailments to research, to develop treatments for, and to heal patients? Take your pick, but I give credit where credit is due. I like when people claim that some god works through others because that gives me a reason to walk up to them and metaphorically (sometimes) slap them in the face. Then I happily walk away knowing that bolts of lightning will not shoot down from the sky and smite me from this planet.
Citizen Runner wrote:
Trent wrote:The MD's excited about his cure: wants to be grateful to the 'almighty.' I have no problem with it.
However, he should be crediting the care in Atlanta and the vaccine that was availableonly to the two Americans. Otherwise he does not do much for rational thinking, giving false hope to dimwits.
Quoted from Dr Brantly's public statement, ". . . through the care of the Samaritan's Purse and SIM missionary team in Liberia, an experimental drug, and the expertise and resources of the health care team at the Emory University Hospital, God saved my life . . ."
Exactly. So sick of these ridiculous threads. He thanked and was grateful to many people and for the experimental drug. For the record, I'm not particularly religious. However, why it bothers someone that a doctor - someone trained in science - also has a strong faith, is beyond me.
Citizen Runner wrote:
Trent wrote:The MD's excited about his cure: wants to be grateful to the 'almighty.' I have no problem with it.
However, he should be crediting the care in Atlanta and the vaccine that was availableonly to the two Americans. Otherwise he does not do much for rational thinking, giving false hope to dimwits.
Quoted from Dr Brantly's public statement, ". . . through the care of the Samaritan's Purse and SIM missionary team in Liberia, an experimental drug, and the expertise and resources of the health care team at the Emory University Hospital, God saved my life . . ."
Thank you. Please post this in the other 35 threads about the exact same thing to calm down the bigots.
Trent wrote:
The MD's excited about his cure: wants to be grateful to the 'almighty.' I have no problem with it.
However, he should be crediting the care in Atlanta and the vaccine that was availableonly to the two Americans. Otherwise he does not do much for rational thinking, giving false hope to dimwits.
People have all levels of belief in God, and even when someone thanks "the almighty", that doesn't necessarily mean that they believe God actively and directly cured them.
I personally am moving toward a more agnostic view, hopeful that there is something pleasant after this life, but for sure not knowing (I actually never did "know"), and I DO see the horribleness that religion has caused in the world. BUT, I also see the GOOD that it causes. It was almost assuredly this doctor's religious beliefs that led him to go try to help people in Africa to begin with. We NEED those actions in this world. If his beliefs lead him to do that, then more power to him.
Flagpole wrote:
Trent wrote:The MD's excited about his cure: wants to be grateful to the 'almighty.' I have no problem with it.
However, he should be crediting the care in Atlanta and the vaccine that was availableonly to the two Americans. Otherwise he does not do much for rational thinking, giving false hope to dimwits.
People have all levels of belief in God, and even when someone thanks "the almighty", that doesn't necessarily mean that they believe God actively and directly cured them.
I personally am moving toward a more agnostic view, hopeful that there is something pleasant after this life, but for sure not knowing (I actually never did "know"), and I DO see the horribleness that religion has caused in the world. BUT, I also see the GOOD that it causes. It was almost assuredly this doctor's religious beliefs that led him to go try to help people in Africa to begin with. We NEED those actions in this world. If his beliefs lead him to do that, then more power to him.
But should you not try to do good things because it comes from inside you? Not the fear of the devil or whatever? It does not take a religious person to perform good deeds, but sometimes that is the only thing that motivates them.
Not an expert but still wrote:
So did some Flying Spaghetti Monster use everyone in the medicinal assembly line as puppets, or do researchers have enough free will to decide what ailments to research, to develop treatments for, and to heal patients? Take your pick, but I give credit where credit is due. I like when people claim that some god works through others because that gives me a reason to walk up to them and metaphorically (sometimes) slap them in the face. Then I happily walk away knowing that bolts of lightning will not shoot down from the sky and smite me from this planet.
I don't think it matters all that much.
I do believe that there is a secular basis for morality, so you will likely be struck by a metaphoric bolt of lightening by some social authority should you cross certain boundaries whether there is a Christian God, a Flying Spaghetti Monster, or no deity at all.
I assume you have some greater cause that you are so passionate about that you are willing to risk your life and even risk a very horrible death to persue it. Why don't you tell us what it is?
Otherwise, you really have some balls trying to find a way to criticize the motivation of someone who is willing to make such sacrifice. In a way, I think you are defeating the point you are trying to make with regard to faith.
Athiest 1 wrote:
But should you not try to do good things because it comes from inside you? Not the fear of the devil or whatever? It does not take a religious person to perform good deeds, but sometimes that is the only thing that motivates them.
I have NEVER respected people who did good things for fear of going to hell. That is just self-preservation and selfish to the nth degree. HOWEVER, many religious people do good things for others for reasons other than that. Often people flock to religion BECAUSE they want to help others and they see that as a good way to stay focused on doing that. I can respect those people.
I DO agree with you that you don't have to be religious to do good deeds.