Good D3 schools?

You gotta be joking use the search bar this has been asked 9,000,000 times on here

You should check out Haverford college. Top notch academics and fantastic coach/program. He's got a great precedent for developing talent. Just had a guy win his 2nd 5k National title after never breaking 10 for the 3200 in HS.

http://www.haverford.edu/

http://www.haverfordathletics.com/sports/mtrack-out/coaches/donnelly_tom

Here are most the good XC teams:

http://www.ustfccca.org/assets/rankings/div3/2013-xc/Div3_XC_2013_Week8_National-Summary.pdf

Academically good schools on the list:

WashU

Williams

Middlebury

Johns Hopkins

NYU

MIT

Tufts

Haverford

Chicago

Pomona

Bates

CMS

Dowdoin

Carnegie Mellon

RPI

Yeah, 'cause Carleton's a horrible school.

LaVerdad wrote:

Yeah, 'cause Carleton's a horrible school.

I don't think anyone's saying this, but you'd be lying to yourself if you think it's on par with the top Academic D3 schools. It's a fine school though.

Carleton is infinitely better than Dowdoin, since that school doesn't exist (but still makes yout list).

What do you want to major in? You need a job after college.

I'm interested in a business major of some kind, but I'm not sure exactly what, and you never know, it could change at some point.

If you are looking in the same geographical region as York and NYU then you should look at Rowan as well. Highly rated Business school (and ranked well overall) but a fraction of the cost.

You're asking for it wrote:

LaVerdad wrote:

Yeah, 'cause Carleton's a horrible school.

I don't think anyone's saying this, but you'd be lying to yourself if you think it's on par with the top Academic D3 schools. It's a fine school though.

Ratings are generally not a great way to pick a school, but Carleton is number 7 and Bates is number 22. Carleton clearly deserves to be on the list. And odd that Colby isn't included in that case since Bates and Colby are basically the same school. Anyways, semantics I suppose.

Yeah, because being on a Coast or trying OH SO HARD to be compared to the Ivies (U. Chicago and Wash U.) puts you on a higher tier than any Midwest School.

Carleton has often been ranked ahead of Cornell, has better average test scores than NYU, and is year after year ranked on par with all of the other liberal arts colleges that Clam named.

Profs wrote:

If you are looking in the same geographical region as York and NYU then you should look at Rowan as well. Highly rated Business school (and ranked well overall) but a fraction of the cost.

Another school in that area is Stevenson. They just hired two new coaches and will be great in a couple years. Also have the ability to get you around the country to some of the biggest/most competitive meets.

anon1111111 wrote:

You should check out Haverford college. Top notch academics and fantastic coach/program. He's got a great precedent for developing talent. Just had a guy win his 2nd 5k National title after never breaking 10 for the 3200 in HS.

http://www.haverford.edu/http://www.haverfordathletics.com/sports/mtrack-out/coaches/donnelly_tom

More on Coach Donnelly -

Noap wrote:

Yeah, because being on a Coast or trying OH SO HARD to be compared to the Ivies (U. Chicago and Wash U.) puts you on a higher tier than any Midwest School.

Carleton has often been ranked ahead of Cornell, has better average test scores than NYU, and is year after year ranked on par with all of the other liberal arts colleges that Clam named.

Sounds like someone's really insecure about their school's merit.

Oh guy wrote:

I would like to run I college and I could walk onto a decent d1 team, however I might want to run d3 and have a chance to be all American, go to nationals, etc, where on a d 1 team I wouldn't be able to do that, so I'm just keeping my options open. As far as d3 goes, I've been looking into nyu and York (pa). What are some good d3 programs?

York's academics are pretty lacking.

I'd recommend taking a look at some of the NESCAC schools. Probably the best conference when looking at both academics and athletics.

Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, and Middlebury are top notch academic schools that have good teams. MIT is also a good one that is not in the NESCAC.

Noap wrote:

Yeah, because being on a Coast or trying OH SO HARD to be compared to the Ivies (U. Chicago and Wash U.) puts you on a higher tier than any Midwest School.

Carleton has often been ranked ahead of Cornell, has better average test scores than NYU, and is year after year ranked on par with all of the other liberal arts colleges that Clam named.

Every time you post you make Carlton look worse. Just give'r a rest already.

You're asking for it wrote:

LaVerdad wrote:

Yeah, 'cause Carleton's a horrible school.

I don't think anyone's saying this, but you'd be lying to yourself if you think it's on par with the top Academic D3 schools. It's a fine school though.

According to US News and World Report, Carleton is the 7th best National Liberal Arts college in the country, ahead of most of the ones on the list in question. It's an excellent school.

Oh guy wrote:

I would like to run I college and I could walk onto a decent d1 team, however I might want to run d3 and have a chance to be all American, go to nationals, etc, where on a d 1 team I wouldn't be able to do that, so I'm just keeping my options open. As far as d3 goes, I've been looking into nyu and York (pa). What are some good d3 programs?

Ok, brother, time for the TRUTH.

1) When running for a D3 school, academics MUST be your top priority, so definitely find a school that fits you academically first.

2) In looking at the results from the group at York, it's clear that you don't care if the team you're on has a lot of great runners or not. This opens up a LOT of possibilities for you then.

3) If you want to judge the program and the coaching staff, see what the runners are doing timewise in college and then compare to how they did in high school using Milesplit. You will find some schools where they all get better and some where they all get worse and some with a mixed bag.

4) Some programs have indoor track and some don't, so if that's an interest to you, consider that.

5) There are a BOATLOAD of great D3 schools, many of which have been listed. One college that isn't as great academically as the TOP D3 schools in the country but is still a decent school and has an ever improving track and CC program is my alma mater of Ohio Wesleyan. We struggled a bit when I was in school there, but the coaches are doing a great job there. They sent 6 athletes to the Div III national championship in track this past spring. OWU isn't my top choice for you or anyone actually, but it is a diamond in the rough currently.

Other better colleges (if you have the grades to get in) are:

WashU

Vassar

Emory

Carleton

Bowdoin

John Hopkins

Carnegie Mellon

Williams

Amherst

Swarthmore

Middlebury

Colby

Pomona

Davidson

Haverford

Gettysburg (this is another 'diamond in the rough')

Hamilton

Grinnell

Wesleyan

Bates

Macalester

Oberlin

Kenyon

Colorado College (nice college where the coaches would love to have a guy who could run on a decent D1 team)

Connecticut College

Dickinson

Franklin and Marshall

Denison

St. Olaf

Schools worse than those academically are easier to get into.

Criteria for choosing should be (in order of importance; though ANY one thing might make you say NO to that school):

1) Academic fit (major you want and school you can be happy at based on your academic ability)

2) Affordability (can't go if you can't afford it).

3) Campus fit. Might be too conservative or too liberal or too wealthy or the food there is horrible or the dorms are horrible or whatever. Don't want to go to a place that you will hate.

4) Team fit. Some D3 colleges have teams of runners who don't really care. Some are just bad with bad coaches and zero expectations. Gotta find one that you will like.

5) Location. Maybe you like warm weather Maybe you like the mountains. Gotta find a good place.

Those are the main things. Other things like male to female ratios or religious affiliations could come into play also.

Good luck.

Oh guy wrote:

I would like to run I college and I could walk onto a decent d1 team, however I might want to run d3 and have a chance to be all American, go to nationals, etc, where on a d 1 team I wouldn't be able to do that, so I'm just keeping my options open. As far as d3 goes, I've been looking into nyu and York (pa). What are some good d3 programs?

Want to trophy at nationals every year?

Go to North Central College in Naperville, IL

Nationals since 2008: 2nd,1st,2nd,1st,1st,2nd.