Webb triathlon update

WebbTriesTri wrote:

Webb finishes second due to transition splits

http://www.sportstats.ca/displayResults.xhtml?racecode=107152

Um no,

Webb did well but you have to be a moron to think he was only 2nd due to transitions. The winner did just enough at all stages to stay ahead. It doesn't work that way.

Well, I imagine not many on here are too familiar with the triathlon, and just having split information and no video, one could think faster transitions would have made it possible for him to pass Jones in the 5K.

But yes, you're probably correct. Jones is a good triathlete, I imagine he did just enough to hold off Webb in the 5K, no matter if they started at the same time or Webb started 10 seconds behind.

Does Webb plan on competing in the ITU series next year? I've only been following triathlon for a year or so, I have no idea how qualifications and such work.

2minutemile wrote:

Well, I imagine not many on here are too familiar with the triathlon, and just having split information and no video, one could think faster transitions would have made it possible for him to pass Jones in the 5K.

But yes, you're probably correct. Jones is a good triathlete, I imagine he did just enough to hold off Webb in the 5K, no matter if they started at the same time or Webb started 10 seconds behind.

Does Webb plan on competing in the ITU series next year? I've only been following triathlon for a year or so, I have no idea how qualifications and such work.

Anybody out there with a decent knowledge of some of the other competitors in this race? How world class are/were say the top 10 guys in the race?

Add up the times. He finished 2 seconds back overall but lost 9 seconds on the transitions. He finished second because of the transitions. Or do you think that guy ahead of him was thinking, "I'll just take it easy on the run and bike and allow a former 3:46 miler (or just over 4:00 this year) the chance to outkick me?"

Article says that..."Jones won the race, which also served as the national championships, by outsprinting American Alan Webb to the finish line"

I know there are a lot of factors in the tri, etc... but I'm still having trouble believing that Webb didn't catch, sit, and kick by Jonesy...

Anyone at the race and see the last mile?

Also for the statisticians out there, this may be the first time that Webb has lost to a Canandian at any distance??!

I'm assuming this was draft legal, if it was not my thoughts below are invalid. Assuming to was draft legal, then it looks like a very large pack came off the bike together. Webb was 25 seconds behind after the swim, but the top 23 came out of the water less than 30 seconds behind the leader. Then at T1, all of those 23 guys were between 33 and 40 seconds. On the bike, all those 23 guys look like they finished at nearly the same time. The guy who won was 38:44 off the bike, Webb was 38:45, the 15th place finisher was 38:41, the 23rd place finisher was 38:43. T2 times for that group only vary from 41 seconds to 51 seconds, with Webb and the guy who won in the middle. So it looks to me like there were 23 guys who started the run at nearly the same time, at most 8-9 seconds apart. Webb started the run 5 seconds behind Jones, who won, and most likely made that up in the first 1/4 mile, if not sooner. With that big a pack all those guys were most likely running hard, but not all out right off the bike because with that large a pack you know you can't break everybody right off. You'd like to break a few guys, and with a 3 minute run split gap between Webb and the guys at the bottom of that group of 23 there clearly were a few racing who don't have the run pedigree to be up front. Based on the splits, when the real racing got down to it, it looks like there were 4 guys with a chance to win. Jones winning by 2 seconds, he probably got away the last hundred yards or so. I'm betting not a sprint finish, but that Webb got broken a little way out but was able to hold off 3rd place. That's the way draft legal racing usually works out.

Video of this anywhere?

Julia,

Great Race for Alan. We'd love to hear the wife's recap?

WebbTriesTri wrote:

Webb finishes second due to transition splits

http://www.sportstats.ca/displayResults.xhtml?racecode=107152

WEBB is BACK

Did he beat anyone that's worth a shit?

How short was the 5k?

I know there are a lot of factors in the tri, etc... but I'm still having trouble believing that Webb didn't catch, sit, and kick by Jonesy...

Anyone at the race and see the last mile?

The only video i've seen of the race so far...

Dear Timex,

I would like to bring to your attention, Mr. Alan Webb. He's back baby. I would sign him now. By 2016 you'll be kicking yourselves. As for me, I'll just be dancing the I Told You So.

tommy pickles wrote:

I know there are a lot of factors in the tri, etc... but I'm still having trouble believing that Webb didn't catch, sit, and kick by Jonesy...

Anyone at the race and see the last mile?

The only video i've seen of the race so far...

http://instagram.com/p/qouDgIiywG/

I'm going to submit that it was confusing as anything for Webb with the french signs and french speaking announcer. May have thought there was 'a lap to go' based on the quick speaking quebecois crowd'. Fingers crossed.

https://twitter.com/triathlonquebec/status/490502198124507137/photo/1

link shows all the leaders in a pack fairly early on. Looks like Jones may have just had some more finishing speed today. He's not a slouch 3 time Canadian champ as well as an Olympian. Hat's off to Alan. A few more races with the chance to get experience on the bike, and get used to jello legs on the run, and I think we're looking at a bona fide top tier triathlete. Not to mention that it doesn't appear as if he's been concentrating at all on any speedwork

How did his hair look?

Truth Comes Out wrote:

WebbTriesTri wrote:

Webb finishes second due to transition splits

http://www.sportstats.ca/displayResults.xhtml?racecode=107152

WEBB is BACK

WEBB is BACK baby !

tommy pickles wrote:

The only video i've seen of the race so far...

http://instagram.com/p/qouDgIiywG/

The winner looks relaxed, not worried like he'd be caught at the line.

Webb looks like he was redlining it.

Conclusion: this guy put the hammer down and outsprinted Webb, who didn't have it.

This is the 3rd good results in a row for Webb; I would say this makes him a legit elite triathlete.

Jones is legit.. he's had some top 10's on the WTS (top level) circuit and has gone to the Olympics. This does serve as the Canadian National championships but the #2 Canadian guy (Andrew Yorke) is already over in Europe for the Commonwealth games so he wasn't competing.

Most of the rest of the field were quite young.. some have raced on the WTS circuit and there are a few others that are up and coming and just coming out of the Under-23 ranks

Pretty remarkable that this dude was able to hold off Webb in the 5k. I wonder what each of them would run for a flat 5k right now?

I don't know if it is a testament to how good the winner is or how "slow" Webb is these days, but you would assume the winner would have no chance if they start the 5k at the same time essentially. I would also assume that Webb could out-kick the best Tri guys in the world, the challenge would be to get to that point.