Why doesn't this guy just set up a race in 5 days and go for the world record?! He is improving at a phenomenal rate. And this just being his 6th 1500 ever, you have to imagine he is still learning how to race and can go faster.
Why doesn't this guy just set up a race in 5 days and go for the world record?! He is improving at a phenomenal rate. And this just being his 6th 1500 ever, you have to imagine he is still learning how to race and can go faster.
Total fraud. Blatant age cheat and doped as shit.
Gay Marxist wrote:
Total fraud. Blatant age cheat and doped as shit.
Idiot.
Who knows about the dope. A good portion of these dodgy agent controlled nameless Kenyans will be doped up, but it's hard to pick which ones.
As for his age, 100% chance he's age cheating. He knows how old he is, and it's not 18. When they run this fast they make themselves look obvious and I bet they wish they were just honest.
Can somebody explain to me why Africans lie about their age? Would it really matter if a guy was 45? I thought the clock and place were what mattered in running.
Lighten up Francis wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why Africans lie about their age? Would it really matter if a guy was 45? I thought the clock and place were what mattered in running.
No. All that matters in running to Kenyans is money.
You earn more money as a teenager running prodigious times than you do as a 24 year old running equally fast times.
Not rocket science.
Lighten up Francis wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why Africans lie about their age? Would it really matter if a guy was 45? I thought the clock and place were what mattered in running.
These guys have no idea about their age. I think there was a thread a couple months back that said Ndiku had 2 separate birthdays.
All hail wrote:
These guys have no idea about their age. I think there was a thread a couple months back that said Ndiku had 2 separate birthdays.
Yeah, the guess is always a few years too young rather than too old though isn't it?
Funny that.
Jim Ryun, in his first year of training, went from a 5:30ish mile in fall XC to a 4:08 mile in the spring. All within his sophomore year of high school. He was sub 4:00 as a high school junior. Either was an Olympian that year or the next.
Sometimes, genetics is on your side and your abilities improve in a short period of time.
Slopenguinrunner wrote:
Jim Ryun, in his first year of training, went from a 5:30ish mile in fall XC to a 4:08 mile in the spring. All within his sophomore year of high school. He was sub 4:00 as a high school junior. Either was an Olympian that year or the next.
Sometimes, genetics is on your side and your abilities improve in a short period of time.
Yeah. But we're seeing a new Kenyan 'teenager' each week, not each generation.
trollism wrote:
Yeah, the guess is always a few years too young rather than too old though isn't it?
Funny that.
Erring on the side of benefit rather than loss? Imagine that! Sounds like most of your tax returns, I'm sure.
Funny, that.
A DuQ wrote:
Erring on the side of benefit rather than loss? Imagine that! Sounds like most of your tax returns, I'm sure.
Funny, that.
Yeah. Or better still, they're not idiots (do you think Kenyans and Africans in general are idiots?) and they know exactly when they were born and they're cheating the system?
I'm always interested in what the apologists think of these athletes. By saying you don't think Kenyans age cheat, you're basically saying that they're backwards, mud hut dwelling morons. Which do you think?
trollism wrote:
As for his age, 100% chance he's age cheating. He knows how old he is, and it's not 18. When they run this fast they make themselves look obvious and I bet they wish they were just honest.
Funny how on Letsrun.kkk a junior Kenyan will be lying about his age and understating it and, 20 plus years later, the same guy will be said to be overstating his age.
And of course will be doped up while white runners are not.
trollism wrote:
Slopenguinrunner wrote:Jim Ryun, in his first year of training, went from a 5:30ish mile in fall XC to a 4:08 mile in the spring. All within his sophomore year of high school. He was sub 4:00 as a high school junior. Either was an Olympian that year or the next.
Sometimes, genetics is on your side and your abilities improve in a short period of time.
Yeah. But we're seeing a new Kenyan 'teenager' each week, not each generation.
Well, in that same generation as Ryun, you had Gerry Lindgren as one of the best 10k runners in the world while in high school. Prefontaine was also running in international meets just when he graduated from high school. You now have a bunch of American high school girls on the cusp of international level and their high school coaches aren't taking them to the well like Lindgren and Ryun did in the 60s.
Slopenguinrunner wrote:
Well, in that same generation as Ryun, you had Gerry Lindgren as one of the best 10k runners in the world while in high school. Prefontaine was also running in international meets just when he graduated from high school. You now have a bunch of American high school girls on the cusp of international level and their high school coaches aren't taking them to the well like Lindgren and Ryun did in the 60s.
Yeah. So you've taken a 60 year period and come up with about 6.
We see that many Kenyan age cheating 'teenagers' running crazy times in a single diamond league season.
trollism wrote:
You earn more money as a teenager running prodigious times than you do as a 24 year old running equally fast times.
How so?
Come on. As you say, this ain't rocket science.
The volume of that sort of talent is far higher in Kenya. They are a tribe of Greyhounds rather than the Mutts that occasionally produce a throwback or random coming together of all the right ingredients.
agreed age cheat. I think we'll know for sure within the next few years. If he is actually 18 and running this fast and improving this fast then he should demolish the WR in the next couple of years. If I don't see a WR of 3:24 in the next few years from him then yes I would say age cheat. Probably also doped up. If he is not an age cheat and not doped up then he should prove himself to be by far the greatest runner in history - i don't think that'll be the case.
In order to prove these records the IAAF should be begging for "legit" birth certificates. A scribbled up note from a village midwife is not legit.
Is it any wonder wrote:
You earn more money as a teenager running prodigious times than you do as a 24 year old running equally fast times.
How so?
Come on. As you say, this ain't rocket science.
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I would guess by the inability to use the quote function properly you might need this told in as simple terms as possible.
Kenyans need an agent in order to make money.
They preferably want an agent that can get them in the highest earning races.
These agents are in high demand, so in order to attract the attention of these agents, they need to stand out.
Running fast times as a teenager means you're noticed more than similar times as a twenty something.
The problem is when one of those 3:34, 13:10 'teenagers' runs 3:28 or 12:50, it shows the whole thing up. Most of them don't, but a few do.