Justin Gatlin 19.68! Wow, Top 10 all-time!

He's the best in the world right now, Bolt and Blake had to already be on notice this year, and after this I doubt either will race him the rest of the season. Into a negative headwind and could have cleaned his race up some, hopefully we'll see more 200m out of this year.

I think Steve Cram said what we were all thinking after that phenomenal run... Something along the lines of "he's had two doping bans, and is now running quicker than ever before"...

With the life-long benefits of doping, life-long bans should be enforced... Though I think Crammy was suggesting something a little more sinister than the long-term effect of past doping...

true brit wrote:

I think Steve Cram said what we were all thinking after that phenomenal run... Something along the lines of "he's had two doping bans, and is now running quicker than ever before"...

With the life-long benefits of doping, life-long bans should be enforced... Though I think Crammy was suggesting something a little more sinister than the long-term effect of past doping...

Steve Cram is always implies doping usage though, except when Farah's running. Worst commentator around.

Every time Cram opens his big mouth, someone should fill it with toxoplasmosis. Large numbers of people, including large numbers of mid distance runners competing in Europe, are exposed to this every year and don't come down with the disease because their immune system fights it off. But Coe came down with a bad case (hospitalized) in the middle of his back-back 1500 golds, something no one else has ever done.

If your immune systems is weakened by steroids, you probably get it.....

He f,uckin f ucked the curve and then swerved WAY back in on the straight, running more like 202 meters. It's also interesting how nickel ashmeade ran 19.99 today yet often struggles to break 10 in 100.

melonhead wrote:

What a start too.

I think Gat can run 19.5x, he needs to get in some practice controlling his momentunm coming off of the curve. Btw, the time should not be too surprising considering he has run 9.8 this season and was formerly a 100/200 guy.

coach d wrote:

Every time Cram opens his big mouth, someone should fill it with toxoplasmosis. Large numbers of people, including large numbers of mid distance runners competing in Europe, are exposed to this every year and don't come down with the disease because their immune system fights it off. But Coe came down with a bad case (hospitalized) in the middle of his back-back 1500 golds, something no one else has ever done.

If your immune systems is weakened by steroids, you probably get it.....

This has got to be the most non-sensical piece of crap that you have ever spewed. Really it is absolutely meaningless.

coach d wrote:Every time Cram opens his big mouth, someone should fill it with toxoplasmosis. Large numbers of people, including large numbers of mid distance runners competing in Europe, are exposed to this every year and don't come down with the disease because their immune system fights it off. But Coe came down with a bad case (hospitalized) in the middle of his back-back 1500 golds, something no one else has ever done.

If your immune systems is weakened by steroids, you probably get it.....

more likely from blood transfusions

GREAT start. Into a headwind, too!? Holy hell.

Uh, he's doped. Pretty obvious.

I noticed the same with farah and the NOP

With the life-long benefits of doping, life-long bans should be enforced... Though I think Crammy was suggesting something a little more sinister than the long-term effect of past doping...[/quote]

Steve Cram is always implies doping usage though, except when Farah's running. Worst commentator around.[/quote]

If Farah had been done for dopimg twice you might have a point

true brit wrote:

I think Steve Cram said what we were all thinking after that phenomenal run... Something along the lines of "he's had two doping bans, and is now running quicker than ever before"...

With the life-long benefits of doping, life-long bans should be enforced... Though I think Crammy was suggesting something a little more sinister than the long-term effect of past doping...

Yeah, ask Lyle Alzado about those "life-long benefits of doping." You make it sound like it's scientific fact when the only science is based on a mouse experiment that lasted about 8 weeks and was extrapolated to mean life-long benefits on humans.

More than likely, doping leads to jacked up endocrine systems and psychological dependence.

I'm sure Cram knows a thing or two about doping, especially blood doping.

that toxic plasmosis would be filling Lord Coe's mouth. Cram never had that.

true brit wrote:

I think Steve Cram said what we were all thinking after that phenomenal run... Something along the lines of "he's had two doping bans, and is now running quicker than ever before"...

With the life-long benefits of doping, life-long bans should be enforced... Though I think Crammy was suggesting something a little more sinister than the long-term effect of past doping...

Wasn't his first doping ban for his ADD meds that he didn't realize that he needed to apply for a TUE? Wasn't he only 18 at the time?

PoisonIvy wrote:

true brit wrote:

I think Steve Cram said what we were all thinking after that phenomenal run... Something along the lines of "he's had two doping bans, and is now running quicker than ever before"...

With the life-long benefits of doping, life-long bans should be enforced... Though I think Crammy was suggesting something a little more sinister than the long-term effect of past doping...

Wasn't his first doping ban for his ADD meds that he didn't realize that he needed to apply for a TUE? Wasn't he only 18 at the time?

See

, which basically says (see page 2) that Gatlin's first "positive" was inadvertent and unintentional and would NOT have been a positive if he only had filled out form for TUE, which was valid and justified.

Also, see

, for detail with exhibits documenting ADHD.

Not contesting his stupid subsequent steroid use and positive test, but all those screaming and throwing stones should at least get a clue.

Love2Hate wrote:

PoisonIvy wrote:

Wasn't his first doping ban for his ADD meds that he didn't realize that he needed to apply for a TUE? Wasn't he only 18 at the time?

See

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/AAA-CAS-Decision-Justin-Gatlin-January-2008.pdf

, which basically says (see page 2) that Gatlin's first "positive" was inadvertent and unintentional and would NOT have been a positive if he only had filled out form for TUE, which was valid and justified.

Also, see

https://archive.org/stream/Justin_Gatlin_Florida_Case_Documents/TroPAndA_djvu.txt

, for detail with exhibits documenting ADHD.

Not contesting his stupid subsequent steroid use and positive test, but all those screaming and throwing stones should at least get a clue.

I don't understand what you are saying. Because he only had one 'valid' positive drug test everyone should take it easy on him?

quit defending cheaters wrote:

Love2Hate wrote:

See

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/AAA-CAS-Decision-Justin-Gatlin-January-2008.pdf

, which basically says (see page 2) that Gatlin's first "positive" was inadvertent and unintentional and would NOT have been a positive if he only had filled out form for TUE, which was valid and justified.

Also, see

https://archive.org/stream/Justin_Gatlin_Florida_Case_Documents/TroPAndA_djvu.txt

, for detail with exhibits documenting ADHD.

Not contesting his stupid subsequent steroid use and positive test, but all those screaming and throwing stones should at least get a clue.

I don't understand what you are saying. Because he only had one 'valid' positive drug test everyone should take it easy on him?

No, he's probably saying that it's dumb for people to refer to him as a two-time doper, which is how the commentators always portray him. And people look at him and get all pissed off that someone who has been banned TWICE from the sport is allowed to compete.

Folks, what we are now witnessing with Gatlin is the fastest clean runner in the world. He did the crime, did the time and now he is on a mission to do things the right way. I for one am excited to see the fastest clean performance of all time.