Joe Piane Notre Dame replacement

He was not a candidate. Other posts/threads have covered this. Hopefully announcement will be soon!

Word on the street was that the three candidates were Houle from SUU, Milt from Stanford, and Turner the sprint coach from ND. Milt was offered the position but Stanford countered and Milt stuck with what he had.

The rumor from the other thread is that Milt was using the move to try to get cheap employment housing from Stanford. If Stanford is a serious D1 program, why do their staff members have to play games in order to live comfortably?

DKCCC wrote:

The rumor from the other thread is that Milt was using the move to try to get cheap employment housing from Stanford. If Stanford is a serious D1 program, why do their staff members have to play games in order to live comfortably?

But somebody mentioned in the other thread Vin Lannana lived in cheap school made housing. Did the school run out or something? I would've asked in the coach openings thread but by the time I read it the subject changed

Why does it matter?

DKCCC wrote:

But somebody mentioned in the other thread Vin Lannana lived in cheap school made housing. Did the school run out or something? I would've asked in the coach openings thread but by the time I read it the subject changed

Stanford has homes on campus which can only be bought by Stanford faculty (not staff). Have you ever been to Stanford? There's a reason why it's called The Farm. It's friggin' huge. I believe head coaches are also eligible (or used to be). Faculty also get down payment assistance from the university. Not sure if coaches do.

Vin came to Stanford in 1992. Palo Alto/Stanford has never been cheap, but those houses were still within the range of a head track coach back then. Perhaps not now.

quehoraes wrote:

Why does it matter?

I'm just curious about collegiate coaching politics, I don't have ties to the school or anything. And thanks to the above poster for answering my question.

Here is a link to the story about the construction of the homes....

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/september/olmsted-coach-housing-090110.html

My understanding from talking with a former Stanford coach(not track) is that there are enough houses for the entire football staff and all but 5 head coaches. The 5 head coaches without housing are on a waiting list until one opens up. They do have to pay taxes on the house, which at a $2M average for the city, is probably fairly pricy in itself.

liltootie wrote:

Word on the street was that the three candidates were Houle from SUU, Milt from Stanford, and Turner the sprint coach from ND. Milt was offered the position but Stanford countered and Milt stuck with what he had.

One of these coaches is not in the same league as the other two....

I mean no offense but Houle got lucky with a once in a lifetime talent in cam levens. He has had a team or two that was very very good but on a year in and year out basis they don't really do that well.

Every school has it's challenges so don't tell me it's because they are in the middle of BFE or other schools in the state get all the goods....

Not saying he's not a decent coach, but jump from low level D1 to one of the biggest? Not buyin' it.

Who will they interview now?

Administrators interview from who applies unless they actually go out and hunt for top candidates. Notre Dame did not go out originally and search, so they selected from who applied. I think most people would be shocked at how thin some of the applicant pools are for jobs like this. Most think "hell I have no shot so why apply" but those who do might rise to the top. Look at Washington State. the overall pool of head coaches who applied for that job was very weak, so they didn't have much choice. I have been told that now that Milt decided to stay at Stanford, and Turner left to go to Ole Miss, and then the ND administration decided that Houle wasn't the person they wanted they are NOW calling around to top coaches. I know of several top national candidates that have been contacted. Its late and they have to get going. My bet is that they will look for someone from a like school (Private, Catholic, rigorous) to find the next person. Schools like Georgetown, Villanova come to mind.

This is factually incorrect. Milt, Houle and Turner did not "apply" either.

Henner already turned them down. ND screwed the pouch here.

I really doubt that they could sway Marcus to leave Nova.

In the know.... wrote:

Henner already turned them down. ND screwed the pouch here.

Notre Dame looks ridiculous here. It's been two months and they are scrambling for candidates? They are either inept or they don't give a crap.

If this thread is accurate, the three people they originally interviewed had absolutely nothing in common. When they got turned down (and quite possibly played) by the only one that made any sense, they were left with two candidates they didn't even want.

Now they've approached a number of other coaches and been rejected. Could be because money is bad, or no breaks on admissions, or too close to school year, or the fact they haven't recruited xc runners for 3 years, or the dilemma of having to fire an assistant coach that has been there for 30 years on your first day. Or more likely all of the above! Good luck to whoever walks into that mess, you're going to need it.

If they botched a coaching search this bad in football they'd be a laughing stock. Oh wait, they have! Bob Davie, George O'Leary, Tyrone Willingham and Charlie Weis come to mind.

Even with Notre Dames crazy admission standards they have probably had some of their best recruiting the past 2-3 years. The assistants there have done a great job getting kids. If people are turning it down they are seeing that getting past admissions there is difficult. Its alot of work to find needles in the haystack, especially when those kids are looking at Stanford.

ND Administration could not care less

perspective on things wrote:Schools like Georgetown, Villanova come to mind.

Henner has got some good recruits, but hasn't seemed to develop his athletes. And, UND would want someone who could oversee a bona fide Track program, not just XC and distance running.

Marcus would be an excellent choice. Bring some Aussies to South Bend :) But, I doubt he'd leave his alma mater.

Milt would have been great. If I was Swarbrick, I'd make him an offer he can't refuse.

I don't see any other good candidates out there. I guess I'd try to steal from the Ivies? The only other like schools I can think of are Stanford (tried it), Duke (don't see any recent success there), G'town (can't see it), Nova (don't see Marcus moving), Texas (?), UVA (too early to tell), Wisco (?), UCLA (?) and UNC (?)...