d1 college running

This is very similar to my resume going to college and should let you go basically wherever you want. (minus Stanford) If you have a good cross season this coming year and maintain your grades, you will be fine. Just make sure you are contacting the coaches and not waiting for them to find you.

I also play percussion in jazz band and concert band, do you think i would be able to get into university of chicago, and columbia.

MIT and UChicago are not D1 schools....they are D3

What majors are you leaning toward?

Im looking into probably a computer science/econ major

Yeah sorry i misspoke, i dont think mit of u chicago will care about track/xc very much

Should be a lock for any Ivy and prob Berkley (esp if live in CA). Don't know about MIT--don't know how much juice the coach has with admissions--same could be said for U Chicago.

Where do you live?

Thanks!, and I live in Georgia so i dont think that is going to help much w/ admission to ivies, however i was wondering why so many people who could run at ivies dont? Is it cost, or do they not have the grades for it?

Your scores are too low for those schools. Retake the tests and get around 2200. Your GPA is below their average so you will need to impress them with scores/other things. Times are good though

OP,

Your grades and test scores are not great, but your times are very good.

The way I see it, your times are not good enough for you to get onto a great college program team, and your grades and test scores are not good enough for you to get into a great academic school (I think you have NO shot at Columbia, Cornell, Berkley, and MIT -- I mean seriously...don't mean to be mean, but two of those are Ivy League schools and the other two are just as good -- the best of the best in the WORLD go to those schools; you just don't have the scores to make it, and your times aren't so good that a coach would just have to have you)...so what to do?

Considering that you might want to get the best you possibly can (teams and academics), your situation screams Patriot League to me.

Lafayette, Lehigh, Bucknell, Colgate, Boston University, and any of the others would be able to use an athlete like you, and most of the schools in that league provide a pretty good education. No guarantee of admittance to all of them, but it's at least a reasonable shot; you are aiming way too high with the schools you mentioned.

Finally, the time is NOW to get these teams interested in you. Even if they don't give you any money, they STILL recruit athletes. You should pick 5 schools and fill out the recruitment questionnaire on their web sites TODAY. Many of them will want their top recruits to visit in the early fall...that's not far away. Hopefully you have done some research about some more reasonable college choices for you.

Good luck!

VA grad wrote:

Should be a lock for any Ivy

not at all. Columbia, Princeton, and Harvard now only recruit the best. Every recruit this year to those three schools has more impressive stats than OP. 4:16 is impressive, but to get recruited to Columbia, Princeton, or Harvard you should be more around 4:12 and have a 3200 under 9:10.

number ln e wrote:

VA grad wrote:

Should be a lock for any Ivy

not at all. Columbia, Princeton, and Harvard now only recruit the best. Every recruit this year to those three schools has more impressive stats than OP. 4:16 is impressive, but to get recruited to Columbia, Princeton, or Harvard you should be more around 4:12 and have a 3200 under 9:10.

I know someone who was recruited in 2013 and currently attends one of the three schools you mentioned . His Junior times were not 4:12 and 9:10, they were 4:2x and 9:20. His senior year times were 4:14 and 9:10 but he declared where he was going prior to achieving those times. Fill out the questionnaire for any school you're interested in. Those are solid times (According to dyestat 4:16 is in the top 95 of all high school males this year graduating 2015 through 2017. I didn't check only 2015 grads).

Honestly, your academic record/test scores/extracurriculars are no where close to ivy or berkley caliber, personally I know many students with much higher gpas and test scores and comparable extracurricular's who did not get into any ivies.

That being said, I really don't know how much your times or being 1/2 african american will help. You certainly surpass minimum admission standards at any school, so if you can get enough interest from a coach at Columbia, Harvard, Stanford, etc then you could have a shot (but keep in mind that all of these schools get top recruits).

In terms of other schools, I don't know if you are only looking d1, but I think you would be a top recruit for Williams and being 1/2 african american and from Georgia, I would not be surprised if the coach was able to get you in.

If the ivies don't work out, I'm sure you would be able to find a place at most (or all) of the Patriot League schools. The best thing to do is just email coaches at schools you are interested in, they will give you a good idea of what is realistic.

Your scores and times may not be "Ivy" league material, on average, but who cares? Why have you narrowed down your choices to the four listed in the original post? Have you considered what you want out of the overall college experience? Do you plan to take running seriously once admitted? Do you know what you want to study?

You have great potential, both as an athlete and as a student, and you seem well rounded. Being half African-American is only going to help you. An Ivy might bite, but being from warm and humid Georgia, you do realize that you are talking about a complete change of climate here, sometimes nasty Atlanta winters notwithstanding?

If you do want to take running seriously but still want a good academic environment, I wouldn't short sell yourself by only considering the schools mentioned or similar ones. Knowing nothing about the running teams, why not consider a Duke, Vanderbilt, Washington University, or an Emory? All top 20 schools not in the Northeast.

Are you one of these guys?

Reilly Friedman

Galloway High School

Class of 2015

http://ga.milesplit.com/athletes/1343093-reilly-friedman

Hakeem Mustafaa

Shaw High School

Class of 2015

http://ga.milesplit.com/athletes/2164392-hakeem-mustafaa

Jack Henderson

School Name: Marietta ( MARIETTA, GA)

Class: 2015

http://parser.dyestat.com/search.jsp?athID=274848

Owen Bailey

School Name: Woodstock ( WOODSTOCK, GA)

Class: 2015

http://parser.dyestat.com/search.jsp?athID=257626

What president or candidate did your raise money for.

Don't listen to these jokers.

I went to an Ivy League school, and trust me, you will get good looks from almost all of them. Columbia and Princeton may not be interested, but all the others will almost certainly invite you to visit (as will Columbia & Princeton, most likely). You have GREAT speed for a 9:30 guy...you DEFINITELY have potential to score at Heps if you train hard and smart in the right program!

Ivy wise, your best bets are probably going to be Penn, Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth. Yale and Harvard are also probably fine and will be interested, but have slightly tougher admissions standards for athletes, and Yale has fewer admissions spots for athletes.

A few words of wisdom...

1) Do well on your SAT IIs. They actually matter quite a bit. 2060 is solid, as is your 3.5-3.6 GPA (unweighted, right?). But your academic index number is calculated based on your GPA, SAT I, AND SAT II...so do well on those SAT IIs.

2) As an athlete, nothing really matters aside from your academic index number, your times, and you not having any red flags. It's great that you have other good extra circulars, but honestly, they don't really matter as an athlete...

...HOWEVER. 3) You are correct in that you have an okay shot at these schools without track - being 1/2 black is HUGE for you. If you decided to pursue Columbia without athletic support (which is the one school you mentioned where it's 50-50), those solid extra circulars WILL matter.

4) Don't be a tool on your visits...being a good fit for the team, personality wise, matters.

5) You'll have an easier time with D1 than D3...athletics helps more in D1

6) Email the coaches at the schools you're interested in ASAP! They will respond and want you!!!

Good luck...and stop using that user name (for reasons similar to #4 above)

Rme wrote:

What president or candidate did your raise money for.

Barack Obama (It was in 2008 but i think im going to mention it anyway)

You should consider D3 as well since you mentioned MIT. Any D3 program would be happy to recruit you which can help negate your scores and grades (while they are above average, they aren't great for the top academic schools). Speak with their coaches. MIT and the top NESCAC schools.

Regardless on what you decide you want, you should get in touch with any coach of any school you're interested in.