In 4 games, covered almost 34 miles (played 390 total minutes). What's his potential for the mile right now?
I was guessing 4:10 (with some weeks of specific training).
In 4 games, covered almost 34 miles (played 390 total minutes). What's his potential for the mile right now?
I was guessing 4:10 (with some weeks of specific training).
Well if a 230 lb 33 year old powerlifter who only started running a few years ago can run a 4:15 mile now and was "much faster last year", then any soccer player should be able to beat that.
elephino wrote:
Well if a 230 lb 33 year old powerlifter who only started running a few years ago can run a 4:15 mile
Who's that powerlifter?
Yeah, I'd say 11:00/mile pace equates to a 4:10.
AS I watch the games and think about stats like these mileage figures, I can't help but notice that at any given time only about 4 players on the field are running. The rest are slowly jogging or quickly walking. On the occassional fast break, you get 10 people hustling.
So what are we counting as mileage? Walking, jogging, running, or sprinting.
3months of base and indeed 3months of specific training (gutsy barf-o-rama short and long intervals), he might be able to dip under 4:00.
Ha!
No.
Any properly trained pro soccer player should be able to crack at least 4:05 in the mile.
Oh my god. No.
I cannot stress this point enough.
Millions of people covered more than 34 miles in that period... they aren't all 4 minute milers. So no. If Bradley had as much hustle a as a Belgian we wouldn't have gone out despite more than a dozen saves.
He ran about 10:36/per mile pace for 90 minutes per game, with several breaks in between. In no way does that translate to the speed for a fast mile.
34 miles in 390 minutes doesn't equate to a sub 4:10.
If you think he can run sub 4:30 in a mile you have either never run more than 50mpw or never ran a 4:30 mile. It takes a lot to run sub 4:30. I have ran 34 miles in 4 days at 6:30 pace and my pr is only a 4:15. Also they dont train to run a fast mile they train to run fast for 30 yards then walk and take a break
The announcers often note that a soccer player covers about a 10K over the course of a game. A 90-minute 10K won;t get you a trophy at a neighborhood fun run.
I might be pushing it when i say he can run 4:45.
not wrote:
The announcers often note that a soccer player covers about a 10K over the course of a game. A 90-minute 10K won;t get you a trophy at a neighborhood fun run.
It's not that the players only "run the way you run a 10k race" during a soccer game. They push each other, jump, sprint, walk, etc.
It seems like Bradiley have the best endurance of all players. And I'm positive that the fastest player has 10.6 speed, and the player with the best endurance has 4:10 mile ability.
These guys are world class athletes, but too much is being made about their distance running potential. The sprint/jog/walk/sprint nature of their sport is radically different from the steady consistent grind of distance running. Lets say you give them 6 months of specific training, then them in the dream mile. The best American High school runners would absolutely destroy them.
Based solely on their soccer training, they aren't coming close to 4:10. A few supremely talented outliers might break into the 4:30s, but most would be 4:40 or slower with massively positive splits. Their training is much more akin to 200/400 runners, and even the best 200m runner in history (Bolt) wouldn't come close to 4:10
Agree with the poster above. I've seen some MLS guys run in person (playing basketball) and they are absolutely incredible all around athletes, no doubt. The guys were quick, powerful, full of energy - just insane. But distance running is a different kind of discipline requiring sustained speed. A world class distance guy might not have a two foot vertical or run a mid 4 40, because that's not where the efficiency for distance running comes from.
I think there are guys out there who could probably break 50 seconds in the 400 today. And with years of specific training, of course the skinny, quick, and efficient guys could get into the low 4's. But for now they can kick a ball 75 MPH - not run 75 MPW at 5-6 minute pace.
It's time to call BS on some of this soccer running stuff. I don't know how much ground they supposedly cover, but I watched yesterday's game and saw them standing, walking, or in a slow 18-20 mpm jog at least 80% of the time. Those of you that are trying to convince others that they are flying around at 7 mpm pace in between sprints are barking up the wrong tree.
Where is 4:15 coming from?
He’s also run a 5K in 17:12 (very speedy) and, get this, can run a mile in a blistering 4:28.
Not sure I believe that one either, but still.
Statsbro wrote:
Where is 4:15 coming from?
He’s also run a 5K in 17:12 (very speedy) and, get this, can run a mile in a blistering 4:28.Not sure I believe that one either, but still.
He hasn't run an official 5k faster than 26 minutes, but he says he unofficially runs 17:12.