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ZICO
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/30/2003 2:59PM - in reply to denver runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Denver runner
I know his name is kennisa. (Okay=Eshe) You missed my point. I think you should reread what I post last time (TAKE YOUR TIME). I have the utmost respect for all Ethiopian runners. Growing up in Addis, I saw these athletes running up the hill of enttoto early morning @ 4 a.m. while the whole city is snoring. I know who Bikila is and I may forget my name not his name. I think u read my reply to usher who thinks Geb is using EPO



?Maybe there is no proof that Geb has taken EPO, but he hasn't run 12:39 or 26:22 since EPO testing began. I would hope not but I'm not so naive as to say I'm positive he wasn't.

Geb's coach/agent is Jos Hermans.

If it lookslike a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck.......?

My response was for the above four OR fIVE lines. Next time I will try to stick to the facts as long as you take your time. When you go for the Grate Ethiopian Run to Addis ask your friends what? ZIMETA WORK NEW? MEANS.
Vipam
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/30/2003 3:36PM - in reply to ZICO Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It is becoming all common for individuals (who simply assume or have a hunch-without a clue) that athletes** are on performing enhancing drugs.

The comment Zico made about Geb not running 12:39 and 26:22 since EPO testing is absolutely stupid, EPO testing have nothing to do with that fact. Those times are Geb personal best-which also happen to be World Records-and every athlete have a limit to how fast they can run. The truth of the matter is that maybe Geb will improve on his personal best; however, if he doesn't I guess those were his limits.

Vipam

NOW I KNOW MOST POSTERS ON THIS BOARD ARE INTELLIGENT AND NOT RACIST; however, why is there far more black/african athletes that are accused of drugs than white/european athletes. The following black/african athletes are routinely accused of drugs despite never testing positive:
Maurice Green
Regina Jacobs
Haile Gebresslaise
Khalid Khannouchi
Joaquim Cruz
Flo Griffith-Joyner etc

Now the only white/european athletes who sparingly recieve negative post are convicted cheats:
Olga Yegorova (Rus)
Mary Slaney- and most still support/admire her.

I enjoy this site tremendously but I am appauld by the clouded judgement of SOME posters and the lack of thought/fairness with when issuing out negative accusations
Vipam
WDOWTIN
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 12:19AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Great posting Vipam!

I have been stating that same fact for sometime now on this board.
Mackenzie
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 12:24AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Gotta agree with Vipam on this one. Especially when you look at how "accepted" it is that sprinters dope, who are the sprinters, but then of course there are clean distance runners, right. I think we should stop throwing doping accusations around since it seems we have no real evidence other than idle speculation.
ZICO
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 3:33AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I didn?t make that comments. Usher posted it. I disagreed with his idea and posted mine. I never said Haile not running 12:39 and 26:22 since EPO testing started. I don?t know where you find that posting in my nick. Haile is more than long distance runner for his country. He cares for his people and country. tries to improve the life of his ppl. I know how these runners are dedicated and they work hard. I saw these runners early morning in Addis Ababa running up the hill of mount Entoto. Thye are the pride of their country. So Vipam and denever runner ?I AM NOT THE ONE WHO POSTED THAT COMMENT.
Tellemboy
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 9:55AM - in reply to ZICO Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vipam

You are by far one of the most insightful posters concerning recent information and brutally honest. Keep up the good work and as always I look forward to your great topics.

Tellemboy
tellemboy
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 10:34AM - in reply to ZICO Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In fact, I would like you to dangle your nuts in my mouth!
Vipam
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 12:17PM - in reply to Tellemboy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I am glad Outdoor season is about to began as I am sure Kenenisa and Geb will ensure the End Of The Year Leaders time will be much faster than 2002: 7:34.72-3000m and 12:55.85-5000m! We need a healthy Kenenisa and Geb to bring out the best in the rest of the world!
The Man
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 1:23PM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nice try at spelling "appalled." And to answer your question - Because very rarely does a white athlete dominate an event, break world records, then when testing rolls around is either a no-show or 'sick.' And we whiteys make fun of Dieter Baumann all the time....and Lyle Alzado....and Mark McGwire....etc, etc. Think a little more broadly, rather than just in distance running, because the people getting accused are going to be the ones dominating - which is usually an african.
Mal Asia
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 1:24PM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vipam, Are you expecting a free t shirt? I think you'
are the first to post more than a 100 times on one thread. Please shut up now. We get the same info as you and we can form our own opinions without BEING TOLD TOO. I almost don't want to see the guys name in print ever again.
PS I hope you don't have a set of Regina and Kenenisa dolls.
ZICO
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 5:08PM - in reply to tellemboy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I am black and I don't want to hurt your mouth.
Vipam
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 3/31/2003 5:17PM - in reply to Mal Asia Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No, I have life-sized 3 dimensional cardboard cutouts. Hey Mai Tai do you know where I can get those dolls. I am sure they would make great collectors items!

Vipam

You know for someone complaining about my posts and the subject of this thread you should know the answer to your problem-don't read it or them Mensa President.
denver runner
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 4/1/2003 1:27AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vipam, you are awesome and keep up the good work.
Vipam
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 4/1/2003 3:42AM - in reply to The Man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Man

You listed one white/european person in track and field, while I listed several. The thing is the one person you listed was a convicted cheat and the ones I listed are just falsely accused. When you can come up with 4 white/european that accused as much as the American/Africans I listed then you may have a point! By the way read my post on your thread you started today.
Despite our difference in opinion this Track and Field season is going to be one of the best in years.

Vipam

Thanks denver runner I enjoy your post, also. Did anyone beside me read yesterday that Kenenisa now don't know if he will run the 5000m or 10000m at this year Worlds-sound like an attempt at a double is brewing!!
justsomeinfo
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 4/1/2003 6:21AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There are quite a few Ethopians who are trying to get the Worlds rearranged in hopes of doubling. The most successful it the meet stays the same are the men's 1500/5000m. It would be nice to see men and women attempting a 5000m/10000m double or 800m/1500m double.

Justsomeinfo
denverrunner
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 4/1/2003 6:29AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No, I didn't read that but it will be safe to say he might run the 5000 meters just because Haile is running the 10000 meters at the world championships. Hey just because you are a huge Haile/Bekele fan I can get you his autograph when the Ethiopian Runners come to run the Bolder Boulder race at the end May.
Jeff Dutra
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 4/1/2003 6:41AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Vipam wrote:

The Man

You listed one white/european person in track and field, while I listed several. The thing is the one person you listed was a convicted cheat and the ones I listed are just falsely accused. When you can come up with 4 white/european that accused as much as the American/Africans I listed then you may have a point!
Vipam




Vipam - the board has routinely accused Lasse Viren of blood doping. What about the sprinter from Greece - Kenteris? He's been accused also.

When the track world is dominated by white people you'll see white people accused of drug use. Use some common sense.
The Man
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 4/1/2003 7:45AM - in reply to Jeff Dutra Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST, SOMEONE ELSE HAS A BRAIN ON THIS BOARD!!!!!
justsomeinfo
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 4/1/2003 10:39AM - in reply to Jeff Dutra Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So it is safe to assume that since swimming and hockey consist mostly of white/european/candaians individuals they are drug cheats as well.

Justsomeinfo
Mal Asia
RE: Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's? 1/1/2005 1:01AM - in reply to Vipam Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Three dimensional cardboard cutout? What the f*** is that. Perhaps you mean three dimensional blowup dolls. Cardboard is flat.
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