Ryan Hall 30:36 10k win today

pretty good 10k for a 2:17 guy!

NotAustin18 wrote:

Ryan ran 30:36 for 10k at the Flying Pig Marathon wherever that is.

His time seems awfully slow for someone of his prior success. I personally think he is nowhere near the shape he has been letting on, the injury plagued years of 2012-2013 caused him to lose a lot of fitness. What do you guys make of it?

You should listen to that podcast that got posted on here in the last few days. He basically says what you were saying, that he overestimated his fitness after losing all that training time, and was excited that he had been since December 2013 without injury and therefore thought he could do better, but didn't realize how much fitness he'd lost, particularly speed fitness.

tl;dr basically he was finally healthy again the last few months and interpreted it as being in shape when he really wasn't in shape

Remember when this was slower than his marathon pace? Yeah that was a while ago.

He'll be back. One of the best runners out there. He just had some bad luck in training. He has what it takes. 30:36 isn't bad for a difficult hilly road race without pacers.

How much did he win by? If he wasn't pushed, maybe he cruised.

meghan wrote:

How much did he win by? If he wasn't pushed, maybe he cruised.

2nd was 34:04.

Taken fully in context, not too bad for him. I like the fact that he is doing some shorter stuff and now sounds like he knows he has a way to go. He does still have several years that he might be able to have success.

I worry that if he stays on his own however, he'll never get back to the top. I think at this point he needs a group and a leader to push and challenge him to get him back.

meghan wrote:

How much did he win by? If he wasn't pushed, maybe he cruised.

For the 10,000th time he ran it as a workout, nothing more.

Though there were three LetsRunners in the field with 32:xx PRs and none of them broke 34 so there's that.

What was the course like? Hilly, lots of turns?

What was the weather like? Hot, humid, windy?

The time by itself doesn't reflect much.

Where was that Altra dude?

yahhhh wrote:

Shalane could run faster than 30:36 right now.

yes, Shalane could run a time she hasn't run on the track in six years, right now, 12 days after a marathon, idiot.

meghan wrote:

How much did he win by? If he wasn't pushed, maybe he cruised.

Second place was about three and a half minutes back.

HardLoper wrote:

meghan wrote:

How much did he win by? If he wasn't pushed, maybe he cruised.

For the 10,000th time he ran it as a workout, nothing more.

Though there were three LetsRunners in the field with 32:xx PRs and none of them broke 34 so there's that.

Have you really asked that 10,000 times? How long did it take you to accomplish that?

old guy 68 wrote:

What was the course like? Hilly, lots of turns?

What was the weather like? Hot, humid, windy?

The time by itself doesn't reflect much.

Weather was good temperature-wise. Around 48 degrees. It was windy. I would say its a moderately hilly course with the bridge crossings (3 - 2 large, 1 smaller) and some other rollers. I can't really tell from the elevation chart below if it paints an accurate picture or not.

The race doesn't draw a lot of competition. There is a 5k an hour later, and the half and the full on Sunday. (Also a one mile race on Friday night.) No prize money or anything.

does this mean he'll break 32 at the Bolder Boulder 10K?

30:36 = about 2:20:00 Marathon. He needs to get his 10K back in the 28:00 range if he wants to be a world class marathon runner.

HardLoper wrote:

meghan wrote:

How much did he win by? If he wasn't pushed, maybe he cruised.

For the 10,000th time he ran it as a workout, nothing more.

Though there were three LetsRunners in the field with 32:xx PRs and none of them broke 34 so there's that.

This. He said he was running it as a workout several days before. Why are people trying to read into this.

It isn't that difficult of a concept to understand.

stevenson wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

For the 10,000th time he ran it as a workout, nothing more.

Though there were three LetsRunners in the field with 32:xx PRs and none of them broke 34 so there's that.

This. He said he was running it as a workout several days before. Why are people trying to read into this.

It isn't that difficult of a concept to understand.

Why's that race so fracking slow? I could have won my age group.