8th grade girls 1600m, 1st 4:51; 2nd 4:55

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Um, ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

They have hit their peak. Next year they'll run 5:10 then 5:20 and once the boobs kick in, they'll be lucky to run 5:40.

Very fast but they could be turning 15 possibly and it is true, they may go sideways from here. Fat though, no doubt.

13/14 1500 record is 428.

I understand how girls mature differently than boys... What are the top 10 or 20 best performances by 13/14 year old girls in the 1500/1600/mile? Is there a list floating about??

walked right into this wrote:

Um, ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

Ever heard that you're a loser and it's you handful of losers who keep posting that which make letsrun lamer than it should be?

Patheticloseralert wrote:

walked right into this wrote:

Um, ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

Ever heard that you're a loser and it's you handful of losers who keep posting that which make letsrun lamer than it should be?

Just answer the question.

Do they have the prepubescent bodies of gymnasts? If so, this could be a high water mark, at least temporarily.

Jordan Hasay's National 1500m record for 13year olds converts to about 4:50 for a mile, plus or minus a second or two.

If the times you give are real, two girls finishing the in same race in these times (in the US) is pretty much unheard of.

Good job girls!

USA Track and Field actually has a web site. Best to go there rather than open yourself up to ridicule.

The Montana state High School record for the 1600m is 4:57. Odd that you would need to seek reassurance that the times were good for Middle School girls.

This was a road race wasn't it? Still good tho, depending on the grade of the hill.

Thanks Dad!

This is legit, on the Whitefish High School track, I know several parents who were there. Perfect weather, but also more than a bit of bobbing & weaving the last 200m as they lapped kids. It is hand-timed I am sure, so go ahead and add half a second. The MT all class record is 4:48 set last year by Chiara Warner of Townsend. The 4:51 could well be #2 all time fastest in the state ever. Oh and it was at "elevation" (3100 feet ha ha). These two girls have been dropping time since they ran some 5:15s indoors months ago. Pretty amazing.

by chance are these young ladies available to pace the last reps my next 4 x mile workout at the end of the week?

Yes, it was on the Whitefish track. One of the most amazing efforts I have seen.

I am open to a link regarding top performances on the USATF website. Does a list actually exist?

here are some single year age group world records (unofficial--not sure how often this list is updated, though one record is from 2011) for the mile (not 1600):

11 5:07.8 Sydney Tullai USA 1 Feb 99 Downey CA 22 Jan 11

12 4:57.51i Claudia Francis USA 14 Nov 93 New York NY 12 Mar 06

13 4:48.8 Katharina Denz SUI 9 Sep 63 Los Angeles CA 12 Jun 77

14 4:40.1 i Mary Decker USA 4 Aug 58 Richmond VA 16 Mar 73

from the 1500, which is the usual race at the youth level and internationally:

11 4:39.84 Sarah Hopkinson GBR 11 Aug 91 Eton 14 Jun 03

12 4:24.96 Georgie Clarke AUS 17 Jun 84 Melbourne 23 Feb 97

13 4:17.53 Georgie Clarke AUS 17 Jun 84 Brisbane 21 Mar 98

14 4:17.53 Georgie Clarke AUS 17 Jun 84 Brisbane 21 Mar 98

depending on the age of these girls, these could be pretty phenomenal times. don't mean to doubt, but i'm suspicious--are you sure these aren't 1500 marks?

Thanks for providing. It was definitely 4 laps on the track. Stood 10 meters back at the start / finish line.

I had Bryn at 4:51.4 (67.8,76.2,76.5,70.9).

I will verify ages. Annie Hill is the name of the other girl.

here is one website for youth track, but it may rely on self-reporting:

http://eliteyouth.net/index.php

it doesn't look too thorough since i know a lot of athletes in california who are not on the list. just off the top of my head, in recent years stars like amy-eloise neale (currently at university of washington) and paige rice ran 4:37 or 4:38 for 1500m, which were nation-leading times when they were 8th graders (2009 for eloise-neal i think, 2010 for rice), so a 4:51 1600 would likely put these girls at the top of the national list most years.

impressive marks, and i shouldn't be too surprised despite my earlier doubts--i saw the older sister easily win the west regional footlocker race, and their dad kicked my butt in the coaches/supporter race with a mid-15 mt. sac 3 mile time at the age of 45/46...

Yes, Steve ran a 4:26+ indoor mile at age 46, 5,000' of elevation, in Bozeman this past winter. The family is incredible.

I will catch the girls at Columbia Falls in a week and post results.