You're baiting.
You're baiting.
Because all the dumb kids know by 3rd grade they can't pass the state mandated tests and will never be able to graduate so they just drop out.
Kind of like why everybody here has a 14 minute 5k pr
fewer schools are on a 4.0 system
it's easy to be above 3.5 when getting a C in an honors class counts as a 4.0
Everybody's a Winner wrote:
The smartest generation.
They don't. Not by a longshot.
I'm sure more do have 3.5 today than 30 years ago though as grade inflation is something that from everything I have read is absolutely occurring.
95%? really? provide the link to such statistics. ohh that's righ, you're making sh*t up.
Yeah there's grade inflation, but it all comes from way more people seeking a college education now than previously.
Fjisi wrote:
Yeah there's grade inflation, but it all comes from way more people seeking a college education now than previously.
this is why. 3.5 is about the lowest you can get if you just show up, behave and do your classwork, and turn in your hw. If you do anything else, like study, or put in more than minimal effort into the assignments, your grade will rise. Many students will get a 3.5 or above and have the necessary gpa to go on to college and be successful in life.
In my senior year of high school (end of the 1960s), no one in our class of ~400 had a 4.0. The class from the year before had one 4.0 (my sister).
There was no bonus for "advanced" or "honors" classes (and I never heard of AP classes, or exams, until I was in college). Every course counted the same for one's GPA: physics and phys ed and French, differential calculus and driver ed and drama.
A C was a perfectly respectable grade (though not in our house)--it was the average grade in any course, after all--and a report card with all Bs was an achievement worthy of recognition: enough of those, and you were almost a shoo-in for National Honor Society.
Yet even then there were schools that had grade inflation: I knew a couple valedictorians from a school that had eight of them one year.
Of course, the parents are the motivating force behind the current "all As for all kids" mentality--after all, parents that brilliant have to have kids that are the best, right? It's the parents who can't stand the idea that Little Billy or Suzy Creamcheese might be ranked behind another kid--especially (heaven forbid!) their friends' or neighbors' kid. Administrators don't need the aggravation, so they encourage giving an A to every kid who shows up, does the work, and doesn't make trouble.
And so you get situations where every "smart" kid in the class is a valedictorian--20 or more, in some cases. The irony is that a situation like that ends up putting more emphasis on SAT/ACT scores, because colleges can't use GPA to sort out who was a school's top student; but many parents hate those tests, as well, because--even with the coaching that's currently available--the tests tend to distinguish the truly intelligent kids from the merely diligent.
Here are my observations in a middle class, midwestern suburban school. The "regular" classes are painfully easy. You show up, pay attention and study just a little for the tests and you'll get an A. The "Honors" classes are a little harder. Kind of like classes were when I was a kid. You have to work hard and study to get an A. The AP classes are hard. Maybe harder than when I was in school.
So, with a weighted gpa a kid takes all regular classes and one or two honors classes and it's not hard to get a 4.0. You really have to take the AP classes if you want to be prepared to go into a challenging college major.
My Niece graduated last year, they had 16 Valedictorians... Apparently that isn't unusual...
This one had 25!!
http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/16/one-high-school-25-valedictorians/
Everybody's a Winner wrote:
The smartest generation.
Our Society is going great places. We face tremendous challenges but they will be solved in short order--our system is specifically prepared to meet them.
Everybody's a Winner wrote:
The smartest generation.
Based on your estimation skills, I'd say you're part of the 5%.
The grade inflation mostly happens in the suburbs. I go to a top magnet high school in nyc (that we had to apply to) and people struggle to maintain grade averages like that. However kids in the airbus are just given the same gpas or higher without doing much work (some suburban schools are hard though),
*suburbs not airburbs
Same reason why so many more kids are breaking 9:00 for two miles these days. Increased competition brought on by these forces
1. Globalization. Now kids compete with kids from China, India, Middle East, Korea, and Vietnam to get into their local state college.
2. Internet - information availability increases competition
Teenager wrote:
The grade inflation mostly happens in the suburbs.
Uh, no.
Most of this mess started with a certain group of underachievers. Administrators had a choice, teach the students and their parents to be accountable, involved in the school work and reach goals set by the school, or stay at the same level until you do.......or.......make everyone an honor student, then the kids move on, the school districts numbers look good and the teachers keep their jobs.
Hmmmmm, guess which one they picked.
[quote]formerly present wrote:
"In my senior year of high school (end of the 1960s), "
You went to high school in the 60's?!!!
So did my dad who is a grandfather to my children. Please turn off your computer and go outside to play catch with your grandchildren. Take your wife for a walk. DO NOT TROLL INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS.
I can't imagine my father wasting his time this way.
No sorry. Suburban parents are more connected and have more sway than urban parents (even if the urban parents are wealthy they are led likely to be as connected with the school). Long Island for example is notorious for grade inflation
Teenager wrote:
No sorry. Suburban parents are more connected and have more sway than urban parents (even if the urban parents are wealthy they are led likely to be as connected with the school). Long Island for example is notorious for grade inflation
So you're telling me that I would have received worse grades if I'd gone to some public school in Brownsville or the South Bronx?
so the geniuses in our local school system decided no more grade "inflation". But, an A in an honors level classes became a 4.0 so my son, who took no honors classes but had a 78 average for 4 years of high school, graduated with a 1.96. Looks real good on that transcript that goes out to colleges!