Hasay, under Salazar, has PBs across the board

We watched her at USA nationals last year in DES moines, then watched her last night at Mt. Sac. The kid is definitely improving from race to race and she's only 22! :O

Yes she's barely better than when she was in High School. Congrats!

she should be faster now that she gets that oregon juice

true... wrote:

Yes she's barely better than when she was in High School. Congrats!

Barely? So you're saying she crushed all the HS records when she was in HS? 4:28, 8:46, 15:34, 31:46....I forgot she ran almost that fast in HS.

She's had these personal bests because she's finally in time trials and fast races. She never had that opportunity in college. Salazar really hasn't done anything besides getting her into fast races so far. Give him some more time.

Happyeaster wrote:

In just nine months of racing and training under Alberto Salazar, Hasay has achieved a PB in every race category she has ever ran in. Pretty cool!

Are you able to tell us what her PB in each race distance was in college versus currently?

MIC ITW wrote:

Are you able to tell us what her PB in each race distance was in college versus currently?

Doo wrote:

MIC ITW wrote:

Are you able to tell us what her PB in each race distance was in college versus currently?

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/jordan-hasay-219561#progression

Looks pretty minimal from what I can tell. Any improvement less than 1 second per lap could be considered not enough to be statistically significant due to aerodynamics.

true... wrote:

Yes she's barely better than when she was in High School. Congrats!

This is snarky but true. Jordan was SO talented in high school that Olympic gold seemed her destiny. Perhaps that was her peak. If she were to have proportionately built upon her times she would be much faster now. She is still an excellent runner (before the bashers chime in). But to me, she has not come close to achieving what she once seemed capable of doing. Oh, and yes she also seems to be a very nice intelligent grounded young woman. Just not the world-class runner we all thought she'd be.

Quickly! wrote:

I wonder if we'll be saying the same thing about Cain in about 5 years.

Cain has sub-60 closing speed, something Hasay will never be able to do even out of the blocks. Cain has made an WC final, something Hasay will never do. Cain has regularly taken down all collegiate milers and most professional milers. Hasay has taken down some big names but not with the consistency and domination Cain has. You take Cain's future at age 23 and match it with Hasay's future at 23 and most reasonable people (non creepy) will put their money on Cain. Hasay has to be getting tired of being buried by Cain in practice 385 days in a row now.

Hasay probably does not like all the big spatter about her on message boards as that could stress out anyone. She has to not be happy about how her career is constantly dissected. The best thing she can do is:

1. Find another sponsor where you're not over-hyped.

2. Find a less high-profile group to train with.

3. Forget about developing closing speed.

4. Be more involved with fans and media.

5. Run only road races for the next year or two, plus cross-country nationals. Engage with the people, take a lot of selfies, dedicate big construction projects, get a cute like pixie haircut like Joey Heatherton used to have, show more independence and maturity, build up your image, return to track 10K's in distant future with vigor and confidence.

I think she consider Tough Mudders and Color Runs. Her lack of speed will be less a liability in those. Best wishes to her. Am huge fan.

Comparing Hasay to Cain is wrongheaded.

Any American runner, except for Decker, would fail the test comparison to Cain.

Also, it takes longer for runner in the 5k to 10k to mature to their peak. What American 5k/10k/marathon runners do you know have peaked at 22?

Hasay is doing fine and her confidence in the small steps she has taken in her progression to faster times is well-founded.

DedicateRunner wrote:

Also, it takes longer for runner in the 5k to 10k to mature to their peak. What American 5k/10k/marathon runners do you know have peaked at 22?

Lol no it doesn't. Plenty of runners peak in their early 20s or earlier.

Cappy the Elder wrote:

I think she consider Tough Mudders and Color Runs. Her lack of speed will be less a liability in those. Best wishes to her. Am huge fan.

right on, Cappy!

future of the predictor wrote:

Quickly! wrote:

I wonder if we'll be saying the same thing about Cain in about 5 years.

Cain has sub-60 closing speed, something Hasay will never be able to do even out of the blocks.

4:08 for 1500 indicates she could run an open 400 around 57.

MIC ITW wrote:

future of the predictor wrote:

Cain has sub-60 closing speed, something Hasay will never be able to do even out of the blocks.

4:08 for 1500 indicates she could run an open 400 around 57.

You are probably right. My HS PR's (all as a junior) were similar to Hasey's PR's 2:05, 4:25 mile , 9:30 2 mile, 15:23 5K, 32:45 10K but lifetime 440 best was only 58.5. Like Hasay, I got torched on a lot of last laps so I do have some empathy for her. Even though my one lap PR sucks, it is hard to think of Hasey ever beating me in a one-lapper.