Laura Ingraham mocks Obama and the BLM

lols wrote:

Lol that dirty kunt has even less credibility than your most lowlife politician. Who cares what she thinks. She's been mocked on numerous occasions herself by other politicians and even been put on leave by her network for her BS.

+1

Right wing nut jobs support the crazy, demented rancher who has lived off the public teat for decades. But I do hope this story has legs. Mainstream Republicans will never support the idea of some entitled old coot feeling he's above paying BLM cattle fees, especially when the fees are so ridiculously low. This isn't about freedom, it's about theft.

Great stuff.

troglodyte wrote:

This isn't about freedom, it's about theft.

The Feds gave him his cattle back. It isn't about theft anymore.

From comments sexion wrote:

troglodyte wrote:

This isn't about freedom, it's about theft.

The Feds gave him his cattle back. It isn't about theft anymore.

It's about borrowing.

Laura Ingram, similar to 95% of conservative pundits and talk radio hosts, is an idiot and should not be taken seriously. She has displayed her outright ignorance and stupidity many times

I don't know if she's married now or not but considering her interesting lack of success with the male of the species (check out her interaction with conservative dinish D'sousa) and her health I'm surprised she's been allowed to adopt?

troglodyte wrote:

lols wrote:

Lol that dirty kunt has even less credibility than your most lowlife politician. Who cares what she thinks. She's been mocked on numerous occasions herself by other politicians and even been put on leave by her network for her BS.

+1

Right wing nut jobs support the crazy, demented rancher who has lived off the public teat for decades. But I do hope this story has legs. Mainstream Republicans will never support the idea of some entitled old coot feeling he's above paying BLM cattle fees, especially when the fees are so ridiculously low. This isn't about freedom, it's about theft.

From what I view from afar, the Bundy family has been farming that area sine the late 19th century. They and others were originally induced to go to Nevada in part because the federal government’s promise they could graze their cattle on the adjacent government owned land.

Over the last two or three decades, the Bureau has squeezed the ranchers in southern Nevada by limiting the acres on which their cattle can graze, reducing the number of cattle that can be on federal land, and charging grazing fees for the ever-diminishing privilege.

The effect of these restrictions has been to drive the ranchers out of business. Formerly, there were dozens of ranches in the area where Bundy operates. Now, his ranch is the only one.

But from what I can see, all that isn’t the real issue, there is a land and ‘public ownership issue here.

The federal government owns over 80% of Nevada.

Why?

That's about 90,000 square miles - or the entire land mass of the United Kingdom, or, if you prefer, the size of Austria, Hungary and the Czech Republic combined, which is to say a big chunk of the Habsburg Empire.

Again - why?

So the blandly named "Bureau of Land Management" is managing an area the size of Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Portugal combined.

Just in Nevada.

In total, the Bureau of Land Management rules over one-eighth of the land mass of the United States.

That's about the size of South Africa - or about three-sevenths of the G7: France, Germany and Italy combined.

Why?

If BLM were Microsoft or Standard Oil, there'd be an anti-trust investigation. Instead, the BLMpire is the biggest collective farm in history, beyond the wildest dreams of Soviet commissars.

Except that, as the Bundys have discovered, no one's allowed to farm it.

It's serfdom without the perks.

The incoming Emir of the United BLM-irates is apparently some buddy of Harry Reid. Where do you go to vote him out?

In the one-eighth of the United States he reigns over, there is not a single polling station.

And in the seven-eighths where there are, he's not on the ballot’

And you imply the hard working Bundy family are the ones living off the public teat?

Gene Tunney wrote:

The incoming Emir of the United BLM-irates is apparently some buddy of Harry Reid. Where do you go to vote him out?

In the one-eighth of the United States he reigns over, there is not a single polling station.

Neil Kornze, 35, the director of the Bureau of Land Management, was an aide to Harry Reid. Every BLM director before him were career BLM managers with an average of 30 years experience with the Bureau. Kornze had none. Not one day of experience. The day after Kornze was appointed the raid on the Bundy Ranch began.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Wow, her routine was stunningly lame, and she was so amused by it.

You watch things like that and you think, OK folks and in conclusion, here's some Kool Aid. Drink up.

How dare she mock the most transparent Presidency ever !!!

If you are cheering for one side over the other, you clearly don't have a clue. Both sides are just as bad - their grandstanding is all about who gets to screw you and has nothing to with right or wrong. If you do not see the government as an adversary then there is a problem.

Gene Tunney wrote:

Except that, as the Bundys have discovered, no one's allowed to farm it.

It's serfdom without the perks.

And you imply the hard working Bundy family are the ones living off the public teat?

Somebody does not know what serfdom is.

Yes, the guy even admitted he is $300K in arrears in payments. He is a deadbeat. If he does not like the deal w/ BLM then take his cattle elsewhere.

Could you give me another example of the size of BLM holdings using a combination of Southeast Asian countries. You can add a small New England state if it makes it more precise.

troglodyte wrote:

lols wrote:

Lol that dirty kunt has even less credibility than your most lowlife politician. Who cares what she thinks. She's been mocked on numerous occasions herself by other politicians and even been put on leave by her network for her BS.

+1

Right wing nut jobs support the crazy, demented rancher who has lived off the public teat for decades. But I do hope this story has legs. Mainstream Republicans will never support the idea of some entitled old coot feeling he's above paying BLM cattle fees, especially when the fees are so ridiculously low. This isn't about freedom, it's about theft.

Your screen name is very fitting. You have in only four sentences proudly proclaimed your lack of subject knowledge and willful ignorance with a zealots hubris. Congratulations.

What r u even saying bro

The land was owned by the feds before the family homesteaded there. Before that it was part of Mexico, transferred to the US in the 1840s. The family got a homestead (I believe it is the 160 acres of river bottom land that they still own) in 1880 or so. They had free reign of grazing for 50 years, throughout the West, grazing lands were run into the ground. Thus, they created the Federal Grazing Service, which determines how and when ranchers can graze on federal lands. Grazing fees, which have been in effect for 80 years, are very cheap and inflation proof (have gone up a whopping 10% in the past 50 years). The family has gotten either a free ride or heavily subsidized grazing rights through this time.

As far as land ownership--Nevada needed cash when it was created as a state so they took money (silver and gold) instead of land. So as far as a government land grab, well that issue was decided 150 years ago, during the Civil War.

lols wrote:

Lol that dirty kunt has even less credibility than your most lowlife politician. Who cares what she thinks. She's been mocked on numerous occasions herself by other politicians and even been put on leave by her network for her BS.

mmmm...yes, we're much more interested in what someone thinks who describes a woman (womyn?) they disagree with as a 'dirty kunt'..

Heaven forbid we agree with someone who has been criticized by politicians. We all know politicians are our best, brightest, most noble & fearless embodiments of integrity..

Yes, but just who do the BLM act for?

The Feds refer to such areas, 81% of Nevada as ‘public lands’

We are told that, ‘the people own them’ - which must be the reason why the people are forbidden from owning them.

They get rid of the last rancher grazing his cattle of a fraction of their land, having got rid of dozens of others - who now benefits?

One of the BLM’s complaints about Bundy was that he ignored a 1998 court order to remove his cattle from public land set aside for the preservation of the desert tortoise, a creature that federal officials apparently value more than they do cattle ranchers.

As for him benefiting from grazing on so-called public land, if one is talking tax-dollars, imagine how many million times more subsidies the massive Agrochemical companies receive from Washington.

And has anyone noticed, like all government agencies these days, the BLM has a huge military armed and equipped personal SWAT team under its command.

I’ve seen it written that a 21st century America has fewer rights on "the people's land" than a 13th century English peasant had in the King's forest - remember Robin Hood?

Maybe Cliven Bundy is our Robin Hood.

Her audience says it all.