USATF isn't the only corrupt governing body! Athletics Canada is too

Absolutely ridiculous. A certain Endurance Coordinator isn't so much "coordinating" as he is using his position to build his own training group, show favouritism by putting his athletes on national teams (made possible by a lack of clear and public selection criteria), and now, rigging bids to host national championships. Having a club coach in that position is a clear conflict of interest, but Athletics Canada seems to be fine with it.

HUge Bump!! This needs to be made known!!! Spread the truth!!!!!

DST is the Canadian Salazar wrote:

Absolutely ridiculous. A certain Endurance Coordinator isn't so much "coordinating" as he is using his position to build his own training group, show favouritism by putting his athletes on national teams (made possible by a lack of clear and public selection criteria), and now, rigging bids to host national championships. Having a club coach in that position is a clear conflict of interest, but Athletics Canada seems to be fine with it.

Which national teams are you referring to without clear selection criteria?

randomcoach wrote:

Which national teams are you referring to without clear selection criteria?

I'm thinking of Chiba Ekiden in particular. No criteria was published last year and the entire process was very secretive. See this thread on trackie for the team announcement and ensuing uproar online.

So what's the verdict, is the Guelph coach lying to his city council in order to get a bunch of money, or was the Athletics Canada bid process a sham, so that Guelph could host the Championships, which bring in a bunch of money. As it was a pretty small part of the city hall meeting, it sounds like it was the latter.

Isn't this the same group that had an athlete receive money that was supposed to go towards travel expenses through a fundraising campaign, Run canada or something,and then immediately turned around and gave a big donation towards the new guelph track.

It's not the first, or second, or third, time something sketchy has happened with that Guelph group.

remember when wrote:

Isn't this the same group that had an athlete receive money that was supposed to go towards travel expenses through a fundraising campaign, Run canada or something,and then immediately turned around and gave a big donation towards the new guelph track.

It's not the first, or second, or third, time something sketchy has happened with that Guelph group.

This is accurate. This same athlete's travel expenses also included playing, and losing at, credit card roulette with a big group of his buddies at dinner. Isn't credit card roulette something rich dudes play with their friends? Broke runner, my ass! Buying dinner for friends and tracks...donation money well spent!

It sounds like this is a rare occurrence, to have the appearance of bias and a successful appeal process that partly confirms the initial concerns. Doesn't seem like an ongoing issue with the governing body AC; well, it does but if the Guelph coach is usually involved than that's the main issue, isn't it? Seems to be that otherwise AC is getting better.

Judging by the thread on Trackie, the top 800m guy has decided to chime in and is just digging the hole deeper, same as the last time when Reid made it clear how it was beneath him to interact with mere mortals. Romo is probably a good guy but doesn't realize the 'good for guelph = good for canada' attitude is part of the problem.

Just saw this made week that was. Anybody else have an opinion on this? FYI the thread on trackie has got hot recently. Interesting how Moulton and DST have yet to comment on the thread. Back in the old days when Moulton controlled the old TNF north board he was always on there. I wonder if he staying away now because of a guilty gut feeling?

Of note, DST's name was not on the bid is was chris. however are the two not synonymous now?

DST is the Canadian Salazar wrote:

Absolutely ridiculous. A certain Endurance Coordinator isn't so much "coordinating" as he is using his position to build his own training group, show favouritism by putting his athletes on national teams (made possible by a lack of clear and public selection criteria), and now, rigging bids to host national championships. Having a club coach in that position is a clear conflict of interest, but Athletics Canada seems to be fine with it.

I have seen this for over a decade now.

Every Canadian XC team has an arbitrary (if not secret) selection process. I think everyone in Canadian running knows this.

DST is the Canadian Salazar wrote:

randomcoach wrote:

Which national teams are you referring to without clear selection criteria?

I'm thinking of Chiba Ekiden in particular. No criteria was published last year and the entire process was very secretive. See this thread on trackie for the team announcement and ensuing uproar online.

http://www.trackie.com/track-and-field/Articles/canadian-chiba-ekiden-team-announced/11461/

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Cannukk runner wrote:

Just saw this made week that was. Anybody else have an opinion on this? FYI the thread on trackie has got hot recently. Interesting how Moulton and DST have yet to comment on the thread. Back in the old days when Moulton controlled the old TNF north board he was always on there. I wonder if he staying away now because of a guilty gut feeling?

Of note, DST's name was not on the bid is was chris. however are the two not synonymous now?

Dave has notably kept his name and personal contact away from a few things to avoid blow back.

Moulton doesn't deal very well with people standing up to him; works better in the shadows.

So what's happening with this is the Speed River group just keeping quiet so nothing else leaks out? Did Dave get fired from being National Endurance Coordinator?

remember when wrote:

Isn't this the same group that had an athlete receive money that was supposed to go towards travel expenses through a fundraising campaign, Run canada or something,and then immediately turned around and gave a big donation towards the new guelph track.

It's not the first, or second, or third, time something sketchy has happened with that Guelph group.

February, 2012 article on Reid donating $10,000 to the fundraising efforts for a new track in Guelph. Seemed to feel he had some extra money on his hands:

“I guess part of me was thinking, ‘Ah well, it’s a bit of a bonus anyways.’ I didn’t expect to get as much (prize money) as I did. One way I can justify dishing out that much money,” he said.

May 1 to May 15 2012 fundraising campaign that brought in over $5000: Help support Reid Coolsaet as he trains to become one of the top marathon runners in the world. Donations go to Reid and to the production of this music video.

Reid blogging about how the May fundraising money will go to good use.

Wouldn't it make more sense to only donate $4000-$5000 to the Guelph track? That way he doesn't need people to donate their money to his 'training' expenses, and he still has some left over for credit card roulette with his pals.

This may seem off topic but it's actually a good example of the mindset of the leaders at Speed River, that they deserve your money and deserve to win the Canadian XC bid, without worrying about how it affects other people.

Well, less than a year later, and the list of Guelph antics continues to grow. It appears that yet another Canadian Championship bid was fixed for their Speed River track club, and was once again overturned and appropriately given to another group, and their college men raced like thugs in the conference 3,000m. There are a few other potential issues, but I've only heard bits and pieces and am not sure how substantial they are, but these two in particular stand out and have public evidence available.

The race in question was a University Championship race run at a high school pace. The winner has a sub 8 PR for 3K and the race was run at an 8:16 pace. Indoors on a tight track you can get some rough stuff taking place if the race is slow and young runners are involved. Not an indication of any corruption. Just young runners mixing things up on the track. No harm. Just move on to the next race and change one's tactics.

Good to see most of the Canadians are upset with these Guelph antics and are calling them to task:

http://www.trackie.com/track-and-field/Forum/oua-mens-3k/11296/1/

There's some strong words by respected individuals including as Alex Hutchinson, who really has no reason to be biased on this issue.