Why are people from NY and NJ so rude?

Disproportionate number of members of certain ethnic groups.

What's it to you?

New Jersey Rude Guy wrote:

What's it to you?

Yea, WTF is it to you?

the weather, congestion, stress, and cost of living, plus naturally hot blooded Italians in high numbers

oh plus the extremely high population density, and having to wait forever in long lines, congestion

DaVinci wrote:

Disproportionate number of members of certain ethnic groups.

Actually that probably does have a big influence. The rude and crude attitude is nothing new. This was evident as early as the 18th century. If you read accounts from that era, many visitors from that period complain of the locals being ill mannered.

Been There, Done That wrote:

DaVinci wrote:

Disproportionate number of members of certain ethnic groups.

Actually that probably does have a big influence. The rude and crude attitude is nothing new. This was evident as early as the 18th century. If you read accounts from that era, many visitors from that period complain of the locals being ill mannered.

That was a complaint in the 18th century. However the "ethnic groups" are different from current ethnic groups. Actually every new wave of ethnic group in our history has been met with negative stereotypes.

New Yorkers aren't rude, it's just that tourists are so oblivious sometimes we have to yell a stereotypical "I'm walking here! "

Nyer. wrote:

New Yorkers aren't rude, it's just that tourists are so oblivious sometimes we have to yell a stereotypical "I'm walking here! "

Yep. Sorry family of eight who has decided to block a subway entrance and an entire busy sidewalk to gather around a map, you are the rude ones. The people bumping into you are just trying to get where they're going.

New Yorkers aren't particularly rude. New Jerseyans coming into the city are.

In their minds they aren't rude. They're so use to the way they talk to each other that to them it's just normal communication. I'm not sure that they ever feel offended.

To an upper class Englishman I'm sure that a common Californian would come across as crude.

Texans come across as loud and boastful, New Yorkers rude, Southerners slow and lazy, Californians self absorbed, Mid-westerners narrow minded. All generalizations and untrue.

Appearances are often false.

Just watch how the Chinese work the grocery store lines and learn how to deal with it and not be obnoxiously loud.

Idiot Who Is Typical wrote:

New Yorkers aren't particularly rude. New Jerseyans coming into the city are.

The same could be said for Long Island and Staten Island people.

I think the bigger question here is why are you such a little b*tch? Deal with it.

But seriously, all the points about congestion, lots of diversity, hard area to live in are spot on.

Disproportionate number of members of certain ethnic groups.

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The ethnic group most responsible for all forms of financial scams. Most obnoxious sicks fxxks. The one's from the homeland and their scams are laughable.

I go back and forth on this. There sometimes seems to be an "every man for himself" mentality, but at the same time, I've seen incredible acts of kindness. I think part of it is that in order for 8 million people to live in a relatively small geographic area and for it to work, there needs to be a pretty strict code of acceptable behavior and I think New Yorkers get the reputation for being rude when they try to enforce these with unknowing outsiders. Like on an escalator, stand on the right so people can pass on your left. At a turnstile, have your MetroCard out and ready, and if you don't, step to the side so you're not blocking the way. People who don't do this will probably be told of their transgression by a frustrated New Yorker, which comes across as rude when it was their behavior that was breaking the "code" in the first place.

This^. Basically, it's the culture, not necessarily the people themselves. I've known a lot of NY'ers or others from the surrounding area. They can be the nicest, most caring and gentile people you'll ever meet once they're outside that environment. As individuals, we adapt to the culture we live in or face certain consequences. In NYC it's perfectly acceptable to blow your horn while driving, no big deal, everyone does it. In SEA, horn blowing is considered very rude unless you're trying to avoid/prevent an accident. Needless horn blowing in SEA is considered road rage and at some point you're going to have a very serious situation. The code of acceptable behavior is different.

You think you better than me?

It's sad to recall history but here goes.

The majority of the population of the US North East are decendants of Europeans who immigrated from a continent with an ancient feudal system.

In those societies there was no due process, no human rights at all, period. The government raped and murdered whomever they wanted, boys and men, old ladies, cippled people, gays alike.

Soldiers collected crops as taxes and took droves of nice looking women and young teen daughters away from farmers for themselves.

Before the Renaisaance people rarely bathed and lived with livestock in their homes.

The Europeans spread animal and human urine and excrement over their bodies to prevent diseases.

They had bones in their noses, plates in their lips, rings in their ear lobes, and polished gems in their anuses as lucky charms.

Few people before the Renaissance lived beyond 21.

Europe was a youthful but sickly society of under 30 year olds.

Teenage pregnacy was the norm and many girls died giving stillbirths.

It's no wonder that today the US Northeast still carries the burden of their European ancestry.