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| my groin hurts |
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I'm not talking about a normal hernia in which intestinal tissue in poking through the abdominal wall, I'm talking about a specific condition that makes your groin/lower abductors sore, which can includes: -torn external oblique aponeurosis -torn conjoined tendon -conjoined tendon torn from pubic tubercle -dehhiscence between conjoined tendon and inguinal ligament All the doctors I've seen so far haven't the slightest when I mention that I think that I have a sports hernia. All they hear is the word "hernia," and then tell me to drop my droors and turn my head and cough. Anyways, my groin and lower abs have been sore for the last year for no apearant reason. It hasn't affected my performance too much, but even after a month off, as soon as I started up again, nothing changed. Anyone know of any sports hernia specialists or doctors who have experience with repairing this injury? Names, numbers and or email addresses would be appretiated. By the way, I live in Colorado. Thanks. |
| Jerronc |
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I am having those exact symptoms right now and has been goign on for about a month or maybe a little more. My doc did the same thing, "Please turn your head and *cough*." It's really annoying, Let me know if you find anything about it out. Jerron |
| Hawksrunner01 |
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I've also been going through the same thing for the last 2 years. I even took a year off completely and it was no help. I had 2 surgerys that were hernia related and there is no improvement. I havent the slighest clue what to do about it though. I know if I squeeze my legs together it hurts like crazy in my right groin. I know if I try to do a lot of lower ab stuff it hurts also. Some runs go better than others for me, but I dont think its ever going to go away. -Tyler |
| Just had the surgery |
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went through this for over 2 years. went to see dr. william meyers at drexel university hospital (philadelphia, PA) after being treated and operated on for a traditional hernia. this surgery only caused addition problems. he is the absolute best for this type of injury. he basically invented the most successful procedure. he is actually a liver doctor that worked with athletes in college and then started treated the problem as a "hobby". now most people in his office are there for this condition. you can type his name into google and get his history. i was in the waiting room with NBA players and MLB players. this guy is the best. i know you are in colorado, but to get it fixed he might be the answer. i know there are other people that do the surgery thoughout the country, but you will have to do some more research. best of luck, i missed two plus years of running as both my rectus abdmominis muscles were torn from my pelvis and all tests returned negative results. when i mentioned a sports hernia to the surgeon that did the initial hernia repair, he looked at me like i was from mars. |
| Stipe |
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I had a laproscopic correction done in Feb. If you search Dr. Richard Cattey + athletic pubalgia you should find some good info. Anyway, he put some mesh in and everything healed very well. I had struggled with it for several months. You are also correct that many doctors will have you rest for 1-4000 months, but it will pretty much alway return until it is fixed. You might try doctors in your area who work with soccer or hockey players. Good Luck |
| O'Malley |
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Before doing anything crazy, try something simple that may or may not work. Several runners have found relief by using more support from a jock or tighty whities. |
| Just had the surgery |
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stipe is correct, most of the injuries occur in soccer and hockey players. it is the "in injury" for soccer players at this time. you may also need the adductor release because of the pain you are having there. i read about the doctor and the laproscopic option that stipe speaks of in the above post. that is another option that is less evasive. i went with meyers because he is only 90 minutes from my home and is viewed as the pioneer in the field. a jock strap or tighty-whities (suggested in the pot just above) WILL NOT WORK if it is a true sports hernia. |
| bad injury |
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I have had this injury for a few years now and have gone to Cattey (it didn't work) and plan on flying to see meyers in a little while (hope it works). Hawksrunner01, of your two surgeries have any of them been done by either of these two surgeons? Also i can tell you right now most doctors even ones that help pro athletes and elite athletes have nnooooo idea that this injury exists. Anyone that has gone to meyers, could you tell me what to expect with pain and how long etc.? |
| Hawksrunner01 |
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My first surgery was just to go in and see if there was a hernia that they couldnt find through any scans. The second surgery I spoke with a surgon who said the pain is from the muscles around your groin being so weak. So she surgically put a piece of mesh in my inguanal something or other... but there is no difference. Im in some pain after hard workouts, but im doing 70 mpw and hoping to get through my senior year with some dignity. :) -Tyler |
| Just had the surgery |
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you don't seem to have it as bad as i did, i could not run at all for two years. it sounds like what your doctor did may have worsened the problem. if you have a sports hernia nothing will show up on any scan. MRIs, CTscans, ultra-sound, everything will be negative. meyers will require an MRI before seeing anyone. according to meyers most people are misdiagnosed with an inguinal hernia when there really is no "true" hernia, but just a weakened abdomin as a result of the growing micro tear in the rectus muscle. you can wait too long and the tear can get so severe that the surgery may not help. this injury could have occured during a run. a theory was that i did it during a pick-up game of basketball. the other theory is that i did it when doing a strider and stepped in a small "dip" on a football field. most often the injury occurs without the patient knowing. something very subtle can cause it. again, best of luck to anyone dealing with this. a tradition course of action by a doctor that doesn't understand this injury will not work. |
| Peter Gilmore |
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My groin's feeling just fine, thank you. |
| wb |
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I thought gilmore groin was that funny feeling you got when watching the "Gilmore Girls" |
| bad injury |
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glad i am going to see meyers soon, but now you are starting to scare me that it took to long to find him ( 3 1/2 years) |
| girl? |
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most of the articles on sports hernias mention elite men, are there any examples of women going to meyers? and getting better? also do you lose muscle strength and power through the adductor release? also for meyers do you stay in the hospital for 24 hours? how bad it is right after and later, would it be hard to walk around work or college? |
| Mr Man |
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I've had lower abdominal pain for 2 months now. I went to see my doctor this morning. He is a pretty good running doctor; he has run for longer than I have been alive... He told me I have tendonitis in the attachment point at the pubic bone. I think the condition is osteitis pubis. His recommendation was lower mileage and anti-inflammatories (I've been taking them already) and patience. He said he had the same thing himself and it took a year to go away. Does anyone know how to distinguish between sports hernia and osteitis pubis? I would hate to spend a year running in pain and then find out that all I needed was a simple surgery and a month's rest... For now I am going to trust my doctor since he has been very good in the past, but I was just wondering if anyone could add some insight... My symptoms are pain in lower abdomen (it hurts on the pubic bone if I lay on my back and do a leg lift or crunch) and I also have hip flexor soreness and adductor soreness almost every day... |
| just had the surgery |
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women can have a sports hernia, although the injury appears far more often in men. 31/2 years is not too long to find the right doctor. in his research he has indicated success with a patient that went 10 years without a successful treatment. osteo pubis is ruled out before a sports hernia is diagnosed. a negative MRI with all of the symptoms is what meyers looks for. |
| Sore! |
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I was initially diagnosed with a stress reactions on the pubic bone and femur due to an extremely tight right adductor (strained). I rested well but after 6 weeks (when I had no pain), I started jogging and had pain to the right side of my pubic bone and tenderness around my scrotum! This would ease off after about a week of no running or cross training. The only thing I could do was swim front crawl without pain. I gave it another month of adductor stretching and strengthening and started jogging again, within one day of jogging I was sore again. 14 weeks down the line I was diagnosed with an inguinal right hernia. It is not your stereotypical hernia as it doesn't hurt when I cough. The surgeon I saw is one of the top guys in the UK and looks after all the pro soccer players- Dr Maclellend. I know thats no help to guys in the US but I thought I'd help out any british guys with sore bollocks! |
| the disabled peg leg |
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I thought i heard Alistar Cragg had this condition, went thru surgery and is now obviously fine. Who's his Doc? |
| eugene matthews |
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where is can i contact dr maclelland |
| MarcusRein |
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I had the same problem as many of you two years ago with unexplained pain in the right lower hip/abdomnial region for about a year. I went to many doctors and nothing could be diagnosed even after MRI's and bone scans. I finally heard about athletic pubalgia and went to see Dr. Cattey in Wisconscin. I had invasive surgery and, lo and behold, it was athletic pubalgia. I also had a normal hernia on top of that so recovery time was a bit longer, but I highly reccomment Dr. Cattey as someone to contact if you are feeling problems similar to mine and others on this forum. |
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