Do you guys think 4:39 1600m is possible for me?

Not too much.

Start running 45 miles a week on 6 runs.

the issue is definitely not your speed, but more so your endurance. I would recommend some higher mileage. some tempo workouts at around 3:40 pace per km (5:50pace) and an actually long run on the weekend, up to 18km (sorry im Canadian, so 12miles) if you add some endurance to that 56 i bet for sure you would be able to run sub 4:40.

i personally improved my 1500m time by 20 seconds in a year by higher mileage.

and try doing 10x400 with 2 min rest at goal race pace or a tad slower.

Do some longer harder runs. do more tempos/hills to build strength. running more will help you the most right now.

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Wow thanks for all of the feedback, guys. Definitely love to hear what I can to improve! Will try these tips out and hopefully break that 4:40 by May 24th!!

what state are you from? totally not fair, mn takes a 4:25 to qualify

Your 400 and 800 times aren't terribly impressive. I was an endurance challenged HS runner, and had similar 400/800 times and my HS best 1600 was 4:51. Jack up the endurance if possible.

You're plenty fast enough to run 2:02/4:24. Listen to the other posters on building speed endurance.

If anyone cares on how I fared out, I did not break 4:40... :(

I am currently 19, graduated from high school.. The real reason I didnt run 4:40 is because I never ran the mile again. I discovered myself as a speed demon in the 400 meter dash, running a 50.49 PR my senior year and running 2:00 in the 800 meters. I'd like to thank letsrun for all advice when i was a prep. Helped a lot.

cloverfdch-OP wrote:

If anyone cares on how I fared out, I did not break 4:40... :(

I am currently 19, graduated from high school.. The real reason I didnt run 4:40 is because I never ran the mile again. I discovered myself as a speed demon in the 400 meter dash, running a 50.49 PR my senior year and running 2:00 in the 800 meters. I'd like to thank letsrun for all advice when i was a prep. Helped a lot.

Glad that you improved. If you were to run the mile again you certainly would have been sub 4:40, probably even sub 4:35 depending on how good your endurance was

Quitter.

good stuff. at least you improved in that realm.

Helping out the younger guys is the saving grace of this board. The vast majority of the threads should be deleted immediately on entry. 50.49 would have made you a stud on my high school team. I hope you enjoyed it. Are you thinking about continuing with running? Since you came late to the sprinting game and undoubtedly the earlier distance slowed you down, you may have a 48 in you. By the way, I'm not one of those guys who thinks you have to take your running to its maximum potential. Quite the contrary, there are a lot of hobbies better than running.

@FatBoy...

I actually did get asked to run for a smaller D-3 college in my state and had committed, but around July this year, I backed out. I just had no motivation whatsover to run. I think my failures in my senior year of high school got to me. Was kicked off the XC team for the last 5 meets, missing my shot at state, and that added fuel to my performance in track. In the winter offseason though last year, i went out every day and gave it my 100 percent in every workout. I was a 53.1 guy my junior year and 2:03.1. Then track came around and I PR'd in the first meet, running 52.1 open and a 2:03.3 double. My coaches depended on me in every meet to score points, and go out there to break the open 800 record which was 1:59.31 FAT. I kept on running 2:02s and 2:03s then last week of april i ran a 2:01.7 and the following monday, ran a 2:00. Then rolled around the conference meet, had a open 400, open 800, and 4x400m triple. I was told by my coaches to hold back in the open 800 to save energy for the 4x4... and that was my worst mistake ever running-wise. Won the open 400 in 51.44. I then did go easy in the open 800, 62 first lap in 6th place. Was not even tired. Felt like i couldve went 56-57 easy. then 700 meters in the race, I engaged my deadly kick and finished with a 2:03, beating out 5 others in the last 60 meters. Insane race. Wish I had it on video. The thing is I felt like I couldve went 1:58 that night and my 4x4 split of 51.1 proved that. SMH. So HS kids reading this and your coach tells you to hold back in any race that you feel like you could do something great, then f@--ing do it! That following week I went 51/2:02/51 at districts, same triple, and made it to state in all three. Got sick with something flu-like in between state and districts. I absolutely felt like sh-- at state, ran a 52.60 open, 2:03.9 open 800, but did run my 50.49 PB, (all-out, painful, white vision type, puking, race) in the 4x400. Just my story and words of wisdom.

Glad to hear you had improvements and enjoyed your senior year.

You can't set a 400m pr in the 4x 400 though, of course. If you could, I'd have been a 48 runner in high school, but I get to only claim a 50, since thst was my open 400. It doesn't matter how perfectly you try to time that 4x400, even going back and getting an exact time from the video file, a relay is still a relay.

6-8 x800 at 2:20? You either really need to work on aerobic ability and you would improve greatly or you are a troll. Start hitting 5 to 6 mile runs, long run on the weekends