When he can't afford the HGH and EPO any more.
When he can't afford the HGH and EPO any more.
when he realizes that his "career" in the sport will only be for 5 years MAX before burning out at, or before, 30 years old. Get your education and get a job within the sport. Your speed (coupled with good education) could be your ticket to a job in the industry that allows you to make money on the sport you love for your entire career. This sport only has room for phenoms anymore. If you aren't in the top 15 in the world, just give up.
Two words bro: road whore.
Move up and clean up.
As long as you belive you can improve (under 35 years old in 1500 maybe) you will enjoy the training/lifestyle, I guess (if you are already that good). So keep on living the dream as long as you enjoy it. If a gold medal is the only motivation you can quit and get a normal life, unless you are 3:38 high school runner :)
Well it sort of depends on if he has a 1:46 800m or a 13:15 5k to go with that time. It also depends what your outside career options are.
notme wrote:
When should a 3:38 1500m guy give up and start a career outside of running?
I think they would probably just naturally give up (or be forced to give up) when they stop improving for a year or so. To make a decent living and be invited to big meets, I think a 1500 guy would have to at least run about 3:32 within a few years out of college. If they are clearly not on that trajectory, they'll probably have a hard time getting sponsors or getting into decent meets. So I doubt there are many guys who are like "I've run 3:38 5 years in a row now, should I keep at it?" They will already have been forced out before reaching that point.
Lagat and William Tanui ran 3:32 at 35.
You'll know.
#YOBRO wrote:
Two words bro: road whore.
Move up and clean up.
This. Move up
notme wrote:
When should a 3:38 1500m guy give up and start a career outside of running?
Rumour has it that a 3:38 guy finally - in his thirties - can become a 3:28 guy.
said88 wrote:Rumour has it that a 3:38 guy finally - in his thirties - can become a 3:28 guy.
Refer to post no. 2
A dream should never be given up. (if it really is your dream)
If I stop will I be more happy? or do I need to chase this dream becuase it is the thing I want most in this world. If yes you need to commit 100%......
Just before the finishline is always the hardest push through the hardship and you can be where you want to be.
The men in the Olympics are just dreamers to same like you.
You never can loose if you never give up, you loose alot of battles but never the war.
Come on fight for your dream you are almost there!!!
This is easy to me.1) When he no longer enjoys it.I've never understood people who say, "Worry about your career." If he enjoys it and can afford to train, then why not (assumign he doesn't have a family).2) When he stops improving. You say give up the dream? BUt what is the dream? Olympics? Well by definition a 3:38 guy can't make the Olympics so he has to improve. If he is doing everything right - mileage, high/low, massage, injury free - and stops improving for a number of years, then he knows he did his best and should have no regrets. But many people aren't doing it all right.For me, it's the process that counts. Do all you can so yoyu have no regrets. But if a guy ran 3:35 at 23 and is running 3:38 at 27. I don't see why he'd continue unless he loves it or is making bank.Although i guess the one poster is right, even then he shouldn't give up. HE should move up to the 10k, train in that event for a few years and see if the strength work makes him way faster like Mo Farah:
said88 wrote:
Rumour has it that a 3:38 guy finally - in his thirties - can become a 3:28 guy.
adsadfsfas wrote:
Well it sort of depends on if he has a 1:46 800m or a 13:15 5k to go with that time.
If he had a 13:15 5k to go with that time don't you think he would say he's a "13:15 guy" as that is clearly way better?
When he realizes he is a 3:38 guy.
Why would a 1500m even be thinking about running as a "career?"
1500m is what high school and university kids do before growing up and running longer distances. You are not Lagat.
Americans sure love their shorter distances. Problem is you most likely will never make it as a marathoner either since you probably are burned out for track work. Enjoy working at Fleet Feet.
A 3:38 would be considered a world class performance in every country in the world, top 3 in most countries, but on letsrun.com you are nobody, and you should just give up on your dreams like the rest of us posters that could never break 4min in the 1500, get a job! Your not Lagat! #brokendreams
when you're 100% sure whatever it is you think you're missing out on by "running all the time" (money, career, friends, girls, booze, whatever) will give you more satisfaction than you get from training & racing at a high level.
letsrunthelandofbrokendreams wrote:
A 3:38 would be considered a world class performance in every country in the world, top 3 in most countries, but on letsrun.com you are nobody, and you should just give up on your dreams like the rest of us posters that could never break 4min in the 1500, get a job! Your not Lagat! #brokendreams
Not sure what sport you are following, but 3:38 won't get you anywhere on the world stage. 3:38 college guys are a dime a dozen, and they can never find shoe contracts. That's barely an Olympic B standard.
I'm not saying a 3:38 guy should give up - just realize that that time won't get you much on the world stage.
The guy could consider becoming a pacer.