The Nike Oregon Project just tweeted that they will not be racing at Club Nats tomorrow. Course isn't Rupp certified for them I guess.
The Nike Oregon Project just tweeted that they will not be racing at Club Nats tomorrow. Course isn't Rupp certified for them I guess.
This is why people will never look at any athlete that runs for Alberto in a positive light. He does stuff like this that makes them hated. Hasay and Cento will both be viewed in the same light as Rupp. Successful Sissy. It doesn't matter how fast he runs.
This does raise the question: is it ethical for an RD to also be a competitor in a race he directs?
I'd say no, but I tend to think about trivial issues like this a bit too much.
CAPS KING wrote:
This is why people will never look at any athlete that runs for Alberto in a positive light. He does stuff like this that makes them hated. Hasay and Cento will both be viewed in the same light as Rupp. Successful Sissy. It doesn't matter how fast he runs.
This is why real track and running fans think this place is a friggin joke.
I suspect that Max will personally consider this to be his greatest achievement in the sport so far.
i was just on google earth and birds eyes view, what could possibly be that hard of a course in that area?
you got some rolling hills and maybe a couple very short climbs. no single track strewn with softball sized rocks or roots? whats the problem? injury fears or just fearing a loss?
Rupp wouldn't run on a super high quality track if it had rained the night before because he'd be scared of twisting an ankle, come on this is not surprising.
Ran the course today.
It definitely will be an interesting race. Bottles necks early, a lot of tight turns, some soft spots, and hay bales to hurdle just before 2k. The "worst" is the finish though. 200m down a steep incline with mud and some pretty significant undulations.
Definitely more of a "I may face plant at some point" kind of course than the kind of course where you'd worry about a rolled ankle.
A Duck wrote:
CAPS KING wrote:This is why people will never look at any athlete that runs for Alberto in a positive light. He does stuff like this that makes them hated. Hasay and Cento will both be viewed in the same light as Rupp. Successful Sissy. It doesn't matter how fast he runs.
This is why real track and running fans think this place is a friggin joke.
Everyone is jumping to false conclusions "Oh the NOP withdrew because the course is too tough for them". I'm not saying that this can't be the case but last time I checked the tweet didn't say they were afraid of the course. Maybe they got sick or something, maybe they didn't feel like it was the right decision, who knows.
I'm tired of people doing this. It happened with doping speculation about Mosier in the WCs and it's happening again. You don't know the whole story don't make crap up. Just because it's probably true that they didn't like the course doesn't mean it is true. Don't put it in thread titles and make people think that it's really true. I know it's tempting to put NOP down because they are the "spoiled rich kids" of the US running world but please don't make things up.
Once this is confirmed as true, crap talk all you want.
(I don't like Alberto/NOP either but I don't think this withdrawal from Club Nats is the reason why Rupp will be viewed as a "successful sissy". It's that he's not seen as very masculine (see: face, voice, way he carries himself, way he races, facemask for pollen). You could almost say he is the antithesis of Pre. Face it A Duck, Letsrunners want a hero that is tough, manly, and leaves the competition in the dust. Unfortunately Rupp is only tough. Plus that reputation doesn't always have to spread to his teammates.)
Over 1000 people tomorrow will be running this course and every single one will have proven that they are tougher than the Oregon Project athletes no matter how fast the OP runs in the future.
#YOBRO wrote:
i was just on google earth and birds eyes view, what could possibly be that hard of a course in that area?
you got some rolling hills and maybe a couple very short climbs. no single track strewn with softball sized rocks or roots? whats the problem? injury fears or just fearing a loss?
You can stick that google earth up your behind.
The course is tough and runs more like a trail race than big time XC. That said, I ran NE's at Bryant College (RI) one year and that was rooty and pretty gnarly in spots.
This course has 5X 100-120 ft climbs, it's narrow on the downhill and there are rocks and holes strewn about. There is one very challenging left hand turn that is skewed (canted at 15 or 20%), lumpy, and icy. People will be going down on that turn.
The post to which I'm responding is in the running for the single most foolish comment ever posted on this site--and that's saying a lot.
CAPS KING wrote:
Over 1000 people tomorrow will be running this course and every single one will have proven that they are tougher than the Oregon Project athletes no matter how fast the OP runs in the future.
[quote]grizzled mudd wrote:
You can stick that google earth up your behind.
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Are you speaking of the lower terminal position of the large intestine which connects the colon to the anus? Anyway, what's the big surprise? NOP never runs XC.
Normally I would make fun of the Oregon Project for pulling out. But the reality is that they originally thought it would be a good strength race before indoor track and then found out it would be more high risk trail running. I wouldn't want to be the coach that got my athlete injured at a low key cross country race. Sure, I would prefer to assume that the OP runners are tougher ( or as tough). But it sure wouldn't be worth a significant setback to risk injury racing on an exceptionally rough course.
Add me to the list that will NEVER cheer for a runner wearing the NOP uni.
Add me to the list that will NEVER cheer for a runner wearing the NOP uni.
"Prefer to assume they are tougher (than whom???)." An insane understatement. Here's tough:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0g91zucNxg
*stipe wrote:
Normally I would make fun of the Oregon Project for pulling out. But the reality is that they originally thought it would be a good strength race before indoor track and then found out it would be more high risk trail running. I wouldn't want to be the coach that got my athlete injured at a low key cross country race. Sure, I would prefer to assume that the OP runners are tougher ( or as tough). But it sure wouldn't be worth a significant setback to risk injury racing on an exceptionally rough course.
How did the US team do at Worlds last year? Was anyone from the OP on the team? Nope. Ritz made the team but then decided not to make the trip to Poland.
I remember hearing about the team laughing at Ritz after they medaled.
A Duck wrote:
CAPS KING wrote:This is why people will never look at any athlete that runs for Alberto in a positive light. He does stuff like this that makes them hated. Hasay and Cento will both be viewed in the same light as Rupp. Successful Sissy. It doesn't matter how fast he runs.
This is why real track and running fans think this place is a friggin joke.
Quite the opposite. Because we allow real conversation to happen is the reason why we attracted more than 900,000 fans last month.
I can understand why some elite athletes may not like it, but there is nothing wrong with letting people complain about the NOP. Nothing. The NOP is the equivalent of the NY Yankees as they have basically everything when the rest of distance running is more like the Houston Astros - struggling to get by.
Don't take it so personally. People across the globe rip our great country of the USA for the same reason (we have an awful lot) but secretly wish they could be a part of it. It's the same things in sports. Many fans rip the Yankees/NOP but if given the a part to be a part of it, they wouldn't turn it down.
That is a surprisingly enthusiastic defense of someone calling Rupp a sissy. People can criticize NOP but name-calling is not cool. BTW, there is little merit to it. Rupp did run XC in Edinborough. He races more than most and actually tries to beat top world runners and goes for records.And does anyone care if a college football team has nicer facilities or trainers than another?