CHRIS DERRICK and JALEN RUPP something you may not have known

Derrick's main problem is he can't beat Africans. Rupp stuck it in Chelenga multiple times his senior year while Derrick was the one taking it.

Meezy wrote:

Derrick's main problem is he can't beat Africans. Rupp stuck it in Chelenga multiple times his senior year while Derrick was the one taking it.

To be fair, Derrick did beat Lawi once in that 1500

Human Torch wrote:

VIPAM wrote:

At age 22

Galen Rupp pbs

1500m..........3:43.33

5000m.........13:30.49

10000m........27:33.48

Chris Derrick pbs

1500m..........3:39.45

5000m.........13:08.04

10000m........27:31.38

I look at this and absolutely marvel at how much Rupp (Salazar) improved the lower end (speed) of his range and how it made him world class.

Take those comparisons with a grain of salt. Rupp made an obvious attempt at speed work his senior year and ran a 3:57 indoor mile, 1:49 800 and 3:39 on a triple at conference outdoors. Derricks tims are solid, no doubt, but where and how did they occur vs rupps times at the same age? Obviously Rupps 5K is an outlier because he was running 27:33 and 7:4X for 3000 at that time.

If you want to really compare them at that age, compare their senior years of xc, indoors and outdoors. Chris was outstanding, but Galen was killing it. Wasn't it the 3000 indoors where he just blasted off and cruised in for 7:4X after already winning 5000 and mile on dmr?

just thinking here wrote:

Human Torch wrote:

I look at this and absolutely marvel at how much Rupp (Salazar) improved the lower end (speed) of his range and how it made him world class.

Take those comparisons with a grain of salt. Rupp made an obvious attempt at speed work his senior year and ran a 3:57 indoor mile, 1:49 800 and 3:39 on a triple at conference outdoors. Derricks tims are solid, no doubt, but where and how did they occur vs rupps times at the same age? Obviously Rupps 5K is an outlier because he was running 27:33 and 7:4X for 3000 at that time.

If you want to really compare them at that age, compare their senior years of xc, indoors and outdoors. Chris was outstanding, but Galen was killing it. Wasn't it the 3000 indoors where he just blasted off and cruised in for 7:4X after already winning 5000 and mile on dmr?

Derrick was runner up in both the 3000 and 5000... Behind Lawi Lalang

Chris Derrick has the potential to be way better than Rupp off of significantly less NOP tricks and magic. I don't know about being a global title contender but he's certainly got a lot of potential. He could totally be faster than rupp when he gets to rupp's age

al sal has always talked about long term and holding rupp back

XY wrote:

Galen was extremely lucky to medal as this was was of the weakest finals in recent memory.

don't think this is a good point

that's the nature of the olympics and why it the ultimate

some luck involved

Bill Rodger should have won the 80 Olympic marathon

or Pre

but there was a boycott and a tree

Luck favors the prepared edna mold

hho wrote:

Teg's 4th is on par with Rupp's silver.

Farah was already a sub 13 guy and in the mix in finals before Salazar so he shouldn't count.

hahaha addition by subtraction....wtf...

MAPIV wrote:

My what a dunce you are. Chris Derrick is never going to win a global title. You are really an idiot.

You can call someone an idiot but i bet your one of those pussies that gets bullied in school and they only way to release your anger is to insult people online lol.

10/10 Bingo. At age 22, Rupp was being held back to insure a peak at around age 27-28. Derrick, on the other hand, was in a Stanford program with guys blasting workouts day after day. The outcome was predictable: a medal for Rupp and injuries for Derrick. Having overworked as a youngster will also have a deleterious effect on the length of career for Derrick. Chris Derrick is a good guy, but he hasn't had the careful development of a Galen Rupp.

Jalen Rupp is the new Jabe Jennings!

Dont need to know my name wrote:

MAPIV wrote:

My what a dunce you are. Chris Derrick is never going to win a global title. You are really an idiot.

You can call someone an idiot but i bet your one of those pussies that gets bullied in school and they only way to release your anger is to insult people online lol.

As you weakly attempt to insult me online...The point is that saying Chris Derrick might win a global title is like saying that you're going to be POTUS. It is not going to happen, so I suppose I could just say that the person saying it might happen is as loony as they come, but instead I will label him to be the moron that he is. You are likely him...

Hey mini-me the poster you are responding to isn't me. You actually need to stop being so narrow-minded because when he was 22 no one thought Galen Rupp would eventually run a 3:50 indoor mile and gain the closing speed he showed in 2012. Noone knows for certain how good Chris Derrick will be during his career; howeve, to say a runner who has run 27:31 one year out of college at age 22 will never win a global is only your personal opinion and not a fact!

hho wrote:

Farah was already a sub 13 guy and in the mix in finals before Salazar so he shouldn't count. When you look at Farah's results now compared to a few years ago you'll see that he hasn't improved as much as he's lost competition.

This is nonsense.

While I don't know the definitive answer on whether Mo Farah's competition these past 4 years have been weaker than competition of the past historically--we would need to make an extensive compilation of the athletes, their times, and the performances, rather than just state general feelings,

However,

there is no way Mo Farah's phenomenal success was more about the competition getting weaker and slower than him getting stronger. His performances, his running, his physique and form, his ability to close and respond to many scenarios, have been outstanding many times over these past couple of years. Give credit where credit is due!

If we are talking talent lets speak in German

German vs Derrick vs. Rupp as a junior.

German

13:25 for 5000

Derrick

13:29 for 5000

Rupp

13:37 for 5000

Rupp has a 3:51 indoor mile to his name.

Derrick would likely be very happy to go 3:56 outdoors.

Big difference at the WC level.

VIPAM wrote:

Hey mini-me the poster you are responding to isn't me. You actually need to stop being so narrow-minded because when he was 22 no one thought Galen Rupp would eventually run a 3:50 indoor mile and gain the closing speed he showed in 2012. Noone knows for certain how good Chris Derrick will be during his career; howeve, to say a runner who has run 27:31 one year out of college at age 22 will never win a global is only your personal opinion and not a fact!

I believe that it has been pointed out (correctly, I might add) that Noone knows everything for certain. He's just that kind of guy.

fgfg wrote:

but there was a boycott and a tree

It was a ROCK