Regarding the Northville Solstice 10 km where he finished with a completely dry shirt on a very hot day over a demanding, hilly course - yes, Kip would've made up some story to explain his dry shirt. He would've lied about it. Get that through your heads - he ain't talkin'! But, don't let me stop you - call his office - put up or shut up, GR.[/quote]
Stupid post above. Seriously Fast Forward, you DO need help.
Dude, the photo by the parking lot is the one everyone is talking about. He's "near" a parking lot by the start in the back of the pack.
If he ended up running 6:00 flat, do you understand how fast he would have had to have run to average that pace if he was running around 9 minute pace to start?
Let me help you out. In the picture, number 205 is Erin Henige of Northville wearing the pink and white shirt. She ended up 380th place, running a time of 57:43, 9:18 per mile pace.
Kip is behind her in the photo as to what could be described as "slow jogging stride". Now, forget the sweaty t-shirt theory for a moment which IS very damming in it's own right and answer this simple question. On that hilly course in hot muggy weather, how did Kip (wearing a different shirt than what is shown at the finish line and with no number exposed) pass over 380 runners to get to 9th place?
Keep in mind that Eric Green was 35:55 for 8th place then came Nathaniel Warren in 37:51, almost 2 minutes behind Eric. Nathaniel is number 488. I guarantee you that when the race spread out by the mile, he could see every runner in front of him and I guarantee you Kip was not one of them. So how did Kip run thru those hills and then catch and pass Mr. Warren and many others without him being seen? He didn't.
Whoever Fast Forward is, he seems to be lost or biased, but let's forget about him.
Now for the rest of you, answer the above question. Kip could not answer that question if it were asked of him as he knows damn well that dozens and dozens of runners would have remembered him going by, especially Mr. Warren, but oddly none of the runners anywhere near him recall being passed by him. Btw, easy course to cut, look at the map (see Dora).
As I've said a JILLION TIMES, he could NOT have passed all of those runners on that day, no way.