OH Milesplit...Ugh

What did they say when you contacted them to express your concerns?

this seems like a great site. Sad that no one is going to update it. I wish we had something like this 10+ years ago when I was in high school in Ohio. We had JJhuddle and we thought that was great.

Flagpole wrote:

Well, Jim Findlay is no longer maintaining the data there, and he offered to continue to for a little while until they find a replacement, but the people at Flocasts (who bought Milesplit) said no, so what we have now here in Ohio is a Milesplit (and some people - not me - have now PAID for this service) that doesn't have up-to-date stats from last weekend's races with a great likelihood of them not being updated for the next couple weeks either. At that point, do they even go back and put in all the data from the weeks they missed?

Pretty good way to piss off people who just became paying customers.

Shame.

You might look at athletic.net as a resource. Coaches from within state can add results by uploading Hytek results during track or generating an excel file for xc. It is free or you can pay $70 a year for all 3 seasons for some extra reports and to support the site. Has been going for quite a few years and is run by Coach out in Oregon.

We use it quite a bit here in MA with good results. I do a lot of the posting of the invitational meets from around the state to produce performance lists, etc.

Great site and they are not in it to make money off high school track and field kids and parents.

Pete Schuder wrote:

You might look at athletic.net as a resource. Coaches from within state can add results by uploading Hytek results during track or generating an excel file for xc. It is free or you can pay $70 a year for all 3 seasons for some extra reports and to support the site. Has been going for quite a few years and is run by Coach out in Oregon.

We use it quite a bit here in MA with good results. I do a lot of the posting of the invitational meets from around the state to produce performance lists, etc.

Great site and they are not in it to make money off high school track and field kids and parents.

http://www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/Division/List.aspx?DivID=24894http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=45211

I appreciate the suggestion, but athletic.net SUCKS here in Ohio. As I see that many people like it, I assume it is better in other states, but for athletes here in Ohio, it has VERY incomplete data...just not even usable.

Basil wrote:

What did they say when you contacted them to express your concerns?

Well, I see you're trying to trap me here, brother, but that won't work because I offered to take Findlay's place. No word back yet. Honestly I would be perfect for them...I work for myself and thus have a VERY flexible schedule, I'm a former sports reporter with a degree in journalism, and I have a crazy memory for track and cross country stats; on top of all that, I love this sport and believe we should do all we can to help support it...that's why I continue to coach a summer program that my children are now too old for.

Word on the street is (and I say it that way because it's just rumor) that Flocasts is planning to use a different method to input the data and so they haven't chosen someone yet to replace Jim...and I wonder if they will. I just hope they go back and get the data in for any weeks they miss while they are choosing not to update.

I'll admit that athletic.net is less than optimal here in Ohio, but Milesplit really wasn't much better. They missed a TON of stuff. Not an accurate rep at all.

Flagpole wrote:

Basil wrote:

What did they say when you contacted them to express your concerns?

Well, I see you're trying to trap me here, brother, but that won't work because I offered to take Findlay's place. No word back yet.

I wouldn't hold my breath. LOL

Blue Boy wrote:

I wouldn't hold my breath. LOL

If you say that because they are slow to respond or incompetent, then OK. If you say that because you think I wouldn't be a great addition, then you're wrong. I have the skills, the time and the interest to do it as good or better than it ever has been.

Rich from Ohio wrote:

I'll admit that athletic.net is less than optimal here in Ohio, but Milesplit really wasn't much better. They missed a TON of stuff. Not an accurate rep at all.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sure Milesplit isn't perfect, but it has been WORLDS better than athletic.net. No kid that I've followed closely has had any missing info. It has been awesome until this latest thing where Jim isn't doing it anymore and they haven't gotten a replacement.

Rich from Ohio wrote:

I'll admit that athletic.net is less than optimal here in Ohio, but Milesplit really wasn't much better. They missed a TON of stuff. Not an accurate rep at all.

AND...as a test, go look up Rachel Bosworth from Dublin Coffman HS (one of the better HS girl runners in Central Ohio) in both milesplit and athletic.net and see which one has more complete stats (she has been injured most of this CC season and all of the last track season). Milesplit has ALL of her invitational races in both track and CC, while athletic.net is missing several for each.

Milesplit is WAAAAAAAAAAAY better here in Ohio than athletic.net.

What skills are necessary?

Flagpole wrote:

Blue Boy wrote:

I wouldn't hold my breath. LOL

If you say that because they are slow to respond or incompetent, then OK. If you say that because you think I wouldn't be a great addition, then you're wrong. I have the skills, the time and the interest to do it as good or better than it ever has been.

I usually just go to Baumspage and look up results. I really never used milesplit much and when I went to look for some info the other day I got to a pay page so I just ejected.

JJhuddle was a great source of info and links to results, etc until they started to charge and the site became worthless for xc/track.

Evaluator wrote:

What skills are necessary?

They are looking for someone with CC and track knowledge, a journalism background complete with writing samples, and computer knowledge. I have all of that PLUS a great love for this sport AND the time to do it. I also have a very good knowledge of the HS teams in Ohio currently.

Did you mention your big victory of Scott Fry?

not as hardcore wrote:

I usually just go to Baumspage and look up results. I really never used milesplit much and when I went to look for some info the other day I got to a pay page so I just ejected.

JJhuddle was a great source of info and links to results, etc until they started to charge and the site became worthless for xc/track.

Baum's Page is GREAT for immediate results or even to see the results of a specific meet several years back, but milesplit HAD BEEN great at giving you a snapshot of a specific athlete...PRs, courses run, championship meets qualified for, etc. You can also (NOW you have to pay though, but that's a VERY recent turn of events) create virtual meets, pitting different schools together. Milesplit also ranks the runners, so you know exactly how good you are compared to your peers. You can even drill down to just see Freshmen or Seniors, or Juniors AND Freshmen, whatever. Great site.

chadhall wrote:

Did you mention your big victory of Scott Fry?

Didn't need to. Everyone here in Ohio already knows.

Flagpole wrote:

) create virtual meets, pitting different schools together. Milesplit also ranks the runners, so you know exactly how good you are compared to your peers. You can even drill down to just see Freshmen or Seniors, or Juniors AND Freshmen, whatever. Great site.

That stuff never interested me much as it means squat until you actually race against others.

There is a basketball site that ranks all the teams. Do they really know that Anyville Ohio is the 4,980 best team in the united states? Kind of goofy.

I like the way Milesplit raids all the other running websites for results and then blocks anyone else from copying results on their site.

not as hardcore wrote:

That stuff never interested me much as it means squat until you actually race against others.

There is a basketball site that ranks all the teams. Do they really know that Anyville Ohio is the 4,980 best team in the united states? Kind of goofy.

Yeah, but ranking a basketball team is very different from ranking a cross country team or 3200 runners...you'v got TIMES and can do that. Gotta take the CC rankings with a grain of salt due to course differences, but it's still better than nothing.