Yes great the NASDAQ Composite return is annualized at about 2% and the S&P 500 about 5.3%.
Yes great the NASDAQ Composite return is annualized at about 2% and the S&P 500 about 5.3%.
I though so.
Again, no answer.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Yes great the NASDAQ Composite return is annualized at about 2% and the S&P 500 about 5.3%.
Not by my sources.
"Beyond that, the long-term data for the stock market points to that 7% number as well. For the period 1950 to 2009, if you adjust the S&P 500 for inflation and account for dividends, the average annual return comes out to exactly 7.0%"
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, you forgot one, it has never been repealed, it is known as the “business cycle.”
That's where we differ. I try to time my purchases of discretionary funds (non-401K automatic investments). But i don't wait for a 10 year downturn to do it. I try not to buy at a high. That's about it. I try to wait for a dip. ANd if none comes, at a certain point i pull the buy trigger anyways and just put in a mental stop loss order in case it drops by say more than 15%.
In my belief, one simply cannot be totally out of the market, unless there's a cash flow issue in retirement years, or approaching retirement years.
2000-2018 was the time period in question.
seattle prattle wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, you forgot one, it has never been repealed, it is known as the “business cycle.”
That's where we differ. I try to time my purchases of discretionary funds (non-401K automatic investments). But i don't wait for a 10 year downturn to do it. I try not to buy at a high. That's about it. I try to wait for a dip. ANd if none comes, at a certain point i pull the buy trigger anyways and just put in a mental stop loss order in case it drops by say more than 15%.
In my belief, one simply cannot be totally out of the market, unless there's a cash flow issue in retirement years, or approaching retirement years.
OK, I generally agree with that.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
2000-2018 was the time period in question.
The S&P has doubled in value since then. Plus some.
And quit cherry picking your f'g timeframes to try to illustrate a losing point of view.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
That's where we differ. I try to time my purchases of discretionary funds (non-401K automatic investments). But i don't wait for a 10 year downturn to do it. I try not to buy at a high. That's about it. I try to wait for a dip. ANd if none comes, at a certain point i pull the buy trigger anyways and just put in a mental stop loss order in case it drops by say more than 15%.
In my belief, one simply cannot be totally out of the market, unless there's a cash flow issue in retirement years, or approaching retirement years.
OK, I generally agree with that.
And you're a smart guy. You can always sell when things start turning ugly. I don't understand why you don't trust the market. Please, don't post some more charts. Again, unless you want out because it fits your age based time horizons.
No, 1,552 March 2000.
seattle prattle wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
OK, I generally agree with that.
And you're a smart guy. You can always sell when things start turning ugly. I don't understand why you don't trust the market. Please, don't post some more charts. Again, unless you want out because it fits your age based time horizons.
I have never advocated not being in the market.
seattle prattle wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
2000-2018 was the time period in question.
The S&P has doubled in value since then. Plus some.
And quit cherry picking your f'g timeframes to try to illustrate a losing point of view.
Generally your point of view is what has been will be. You don’t ever illustrate anything.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah but 2000-2002 NASDAQ -83%, S&P 500 -54%, 2007-2009 S&P 500 - 59%. Is there a pattern here?
The pattern is the same as the historical one: down, up, down, up,...
...down
so is cash still king? That translates as 'out of the market.'
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
...down
You got it! Good for you. You’re a fast learner.
seattle prattle wrote:
so is cash still king? That translates as 'out of the market.'
“Cash is king when risk returns to the market.” But you don’t get it. Happened to be the best asset class eight days ago when you were sitting on your hands, legs quivering.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
so is cash still king? That translates as 'out of the market.'
“Cash is king when risk returns to the market.” But you don’t get it. Happened to be the best asset class eight days ago when you were sitting on your hands, legs quivering.
It’s interesting that you feel the need to make up things about others. There’s a psychological term for that.
Psychologist wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
“Cash is king when risk returns to the market.” But you don’t get it. Happened to be the best asset class eight days ago when you were sitting on your hands, legs quivering.
It’s interesting that you feel the need to make up things about others. There’s a psychological term for that.
And there is a psychological term for everything you have ever posted. Much more serious illness I might add.
Admitting you are psychologically ill is a very positive start. Good for you!
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Psychologist wrote:
It’s interesting that you feel the need to make up things about others. There’s a psychological term for that.
And there is a psychological term for everything you have ever posted. Much more serious illness I might add.
Honestly you sound like that guy every runner knows who posts all their runs constantly on social media complete with Once A Runner quotes and claims to be smarter than Lydiard/Daniels but in reality is just a 22 minute 5k-er.