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Middle Distance Analyst
Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:19AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He clearly deserves that accolade after this performance. Hopefully many more to come.
it had to be said
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:22AM - in reply to Middle Distance Analyst Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, how can you argue after he gets 3rd-4th-2nd in 3 straight championships?
nickwillis
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:25AM - in reply to Middle Distance Analyst Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No doubt. Centro is the man. Easily the most consistent US distance guy active - that's why he gets so much love here on letsrun.
longerandlonger
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:28AM - in reply to nickwillis Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yep, he and American Bernard Lagat only two runners to win two medals at 1500 in championship history!
Distance Maniac
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:29AM - in reply to it had to be said Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

it had to be said wrote:

Yeah, how can you argue after he gets 3rd-4th-2nd in 3 straight championships?


It needed to be said. The guy's a baller.
abcduh
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:37AM - in reply to Distance Maniac Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nah, Jenny Simpson has him here. Sorry, but a gold and silver outweigh a bronze and a silver

but he's still among the top group
Old Ultra Guy
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:39AM - in reply to Distance Maniac Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I agree, too. Although, if Jim Ryun had WCs, perhaps around his Olympic Silver would have been hanging some WC gold.

Now, with no major world champs next year, what does Centro do? ARs?
Real News
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:39AM - in reply to longerandlonger Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

longerandlonger wrote:

Yep, he and American Bernard Lagat only two runners to win two medals at 1500 in championship history!


Steve Scott?
letslaypipe
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:51AM - in reply to Old Ultra Guy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Old Ultra Guy wrote:
I agree, too. Although, if Jim Ryun had WCs, perhaps around his Olympic Silver would have been hanging some WC gold.

Now, with no major world champs next year, what does Centro do? ARs?


Alex.
Centro is THE MAN
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 9:52AM - in reply to Middle Distance Analyst Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Correction:

Centrowitz: Greatest American Mid/Distance Racer


What else counts besides championship racing? And there is nobody at the longer distances who can be supported as being at Centro's level.
Pointing Out the Obvious
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 10:08AM - in reply to Real News Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Real News wrote:


longerandlonger wrote:

Yep, he and American Bernard Lagat only two runners to win two medals at 1500 in championship history!


Steve Scott?


Scott had a long and illustrious career, but he was no championship racer.
what a race
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 10:27AM - in reply to Middle Distance Analyst Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I had some serious doubts about Centrowitz...but he definitely shows up to these big championships.
areusure?
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 12:08PM - in reply to what a race Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lagat by far!
Bring Back the Mile
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 12:32PM - in reply to Real News Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Real News wrote:


longerandlonger wrote:

Yep, he and American Bernard Lagat only two runners to win two medals at 1500 in championship history!


Steve Scott?


Add Jim Spivey, 1987 Rome

World Championship 1500m Medals by Team USA
MEN
Medals (6)
GOLD: Bernard Lagat, 2007 Osaka
SILVER (2): Steve Scott, 1983 Helsinki, and Matthew Centrowitz, 2013 Moscow
BRONZE (3): Jim Spivey, 1987 Rome; Bernard Lagat, 2009 Berlin, and Matthew Centrowitz, 2011 Daegu
Bring Back the Mile
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 12:35PM - in reply to what a race Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

what a race wrote:

I had some serious doubts about Centrowitz...but he definitely shows up to these big championships.


Ice in his veins like champions possess.
Lets Get it Right
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 12:39PM - in reply to areusure? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

areusure? wrote:

Lagat by far!


Lagat's one of the greats, no doubt. But I'm assuming the OP was referring to native born Americans.
Marta L
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 12:45PM - in reply to Middle Distance Analyst Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If Centro is such a "master tactician" then how come he's never, ya know, actually WON an international race?
Perspectivation
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 12:49PM - in reply to Marta L Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Marta L wrote:

If Centro is such a "master tactician" then how come he's never, ya know, actually WON an international race?


Keep studying English and work on critical thinking and deductive reasoning. One day it will become clear.
Marta L
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 12:52PM - in reply to Perspectivation Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Seriously though, the fanboyism is getting absurd. Centro is massively overrated. He does the same sh1t every race - float around and kicks madly for 2nd-5th place. Never pushes the pace up front, never leads, never WINS.
i kinda like running
RE: Centrowitz: Greatest American Middle Distance Championship Racer 8/18/2013 1:04PM - in reply to Marta L Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well, at some point talent becomes a factor. Centro has not shown that he has the physical tools necessary to run as fast as a guy like Kiprop, who has run 3:27. With that kind of speed, a guy like Kiprop doesn't even need to execute a tactically flawless race to win. He just needs to avoid a disaster and the gold is his.

Grabbing silver was indeed further evidence that Matthew Centrowitz is one of the most saavy championship racers in American history. Compare his championship track record to a guy like Alan Webb who has run 1:43/3:30/3:46. In 2007, Alan Webb went into the WCs ranked #1. Dude was on fire. He could have won gold. He SHOULD have at least won a medal. But instead, he did what Alan Webb always did. Buckled under the pressure. Matthew Centrowitz has ice in his veins and competes like he's supposed to be there.
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