Gatlin to dethrone Bolt in Moscow

justin is apparently the only athletes on these drugs at the moment. moscow will be the pitch if you like for the houston hub.

lol

not very profitable business if they only sellin drug to 1 customer

Thesource wrote:

i made a thread about this last night. i was actually told by people working with justin and the coach. i was only told 9.6 though. who are you sources? we mightn no the same people

justin wont get caught. after the recent busts his handlers changed his programme and is now on a coctail of undected new desinger steroids purchased form the houston hub.

What happened to your Gatlin thread from last night?

TrackCoach wrote:

coach d wrote:

What I'm wondering is if Gatlin will run "clean" faster than the 9.77 he ran "dirty."

Yes, I'm implying what you think I'm implying.

(Is Gatlin clean...do pigs love slop?) Gatlin like Marion Jones and Usain Bolt, did not or do not need drugs to run fast, they were always fast and we always knew they were going to be great. Perhaps not as dominate as they became, but they had the superior talent to do great things.

Also, Marion Jones?

[quote]test. test. testing 1, 2, 3 wrote:

Gatlin tested only once this year.

Gay tested 3 times...

Maybe the microscope started to move away...

I am absolutely certain Gatlin has been tested more that, I assume your information is not up to date because he was at least tested at the Pre (DL meet), prior to and during USATF's. Also, I assume your data does not include WADA tests. Forget about the number of tests, if you don't think a prior drug cheat is given extra scrutiny, you are kidding yourself. I know the popular Letsrun mantra is that every pro athlete is on something, but Gatlin is clean.

A few things, over the last year, WADA/USADA have made major improvements in their process and equipment. They now have some of the multimillion dollar equipment you find at pharmaceutical companies and now they also afford to carry out more exhaustive tests they previously could not afford.

I can't say for sure that they are ahead of the cheaters, but for once the cheaters don't know what WADA/USADA knows. Athletes have a baseline on file through the biological passport, which means they don't have to detect the substance, you can get an analytical positive.

In part thanks to other sports, all the major known 'criminal-type' steroid and EPO dealers have been practically shut down; certainly there are new ones and old ones can go underground, but it is a much more difficult game to play. Also, coaches, agents, doctors and nutritionist are being held more accountable.

WADA/USADA are alerting athletes of anomalies, which is a not positive test result, but you are placed on notice and as a result, the North Africans and wild Turkeys are gone, the half a dozen Russian women sub-2:00 800s are gone and a large number the top sprinters have called it a season or are unable to return to their form a couple of years ago. Did you notice the larger than usual number of injuries this year...normally if you can walk and breathe, you don't miss an Olympics or a WC.

Are there still athletes doping, absolutely, but it is very risky and they know it. Sadly, the WC will have the weakest performances in decades, but it will also be the cleanest.

Drug cheats should be tested weekly after their suspensions at their own expense.

[quote]Speedfirst wrote:

Gat is innocent until proven guilty. Only he and God knows whether he's guilty or not.

If they don't they would be the last 2 not to, barring idiots

Thesource wrote:

you fools. Gatlin hasnt been clean since december 2010. dennis put him on a mild course from dec to feb for part of his base didnt quite work out for him in 2011 due to injury. boosted the dosage in off season 2012 and has now changed his coctail of drugs 3/4 weeks before moscow to the new strain of undetectable designer steroids created at the houston lab. justin is apparently the only athletes on these drugs at the moment. moscow will be the pitch if you like for the houston hub.

Sounds like an advertisement. Maybe you should point out these new designer drugs to the testers then?

Again, I don't pertain to know whether Gat is clean or not.

I have faith that he is clean. I believe his 4 years off was the best thing for him, and as you can see it's translating in training.

Anyone want to bet against me that Gat wins in a sub 9.7 time in Moscow? (barring wind)

Gatlin served a Doping Ban. Therefor, he has already been proven guilty.

Gatlin is the golden child of USATF. USATF made sure, after his false start in the 1st round at USAS in 2004, that he got put into the final (getting to skip the semis).

At that point, I lost any small bit of respect I had for him.

Then he tested positive.

Gatlin is a joke.

Agreed. Positive's should also be punished with a monetary expense that is then put back into the anti-doping efforts.

Bolt will only need to run about 40 meters of this race then job it in. There's nobody left to compete against him.

I really find it hard to believe that Gatlin has run any 9.5x or 9.6x 100m races at practice (at least FAT timed).

Best case scenario for Gatlin: he runs 9.6 high and he still loses to Bolt. More likely, he's going to run around 9.80, again, and lose to Bolt.

Time doesn't matter. He's not beating Bolt. Bolt can probably run in the 9.60-9.65 range if necessary. Gatlin's only shot at the Gold is to hope for another Bolt FS.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Considering what has happened to everybody else, there is at least an even possibility that Gatlin "goes down" before the Moscow final.

I agree. Providing he makes it to Moscow, he's going to get smoked by Bolt. Anyone that his him breaking Bolt's 9.58 needs to have their head examined. He couldn't even dope to reach that speed.

Yes, I would Like to bet against you that Gatlin will not win and/or run sub 9.70 in Moscow!! How much would you like to bet? I am down for any amount! There are other bets I would like to make with you if you are game?

Speedfirst wrote:

Again, I don't pertain to know whether Gat is clean or not.

I have faith that he is clean. I believe his 4 years off was the best thing for him, and as you can see it's translating in training.

Anyone want to bet against me that Gat wins in a sub 9.7 time in Moscow? (barring wind)

Yes, I would Like to bet against you that Gatlin will not win and/or run sub 9.70 in Moscow!! How much would you like to bet? I am down for any amount! There are other bets I would like to make with you if you are game?

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Whaaat? wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Considering what has happened to everybody else, there is at least an even possibility that Gatlin "goes down" before the Moscow final.

I agree. Providing he makes it to Moscow, he's going to get smoked by Bolt. Anyone that his him breaking Bolt's 9.58 needs to have their head examined. He couldn't even dope to reach that speed.

Yeah, considering he got to mid-9.7x while on the juice, 9.58 is a stretch. Even if he could do it, I think it would take him absolutely unrestricted doping to get there, which I don't think he is capable of in the current environment.

And if, IF there is any truth to him going 9.6x, ever (which there isn't, because nobody does anything like that in practice), you can bet that Bolt would be aware of it, and would go 9.5x.

That is a sensible approach - If you get caught and serve a ban and come back you should be put onto a weekly testing program which you fund yourself...

Gatlin will still show benefits from the years of doping and he probably doped while he was suspended and not being tested plotting his comeback..

Track coach mentioned earlier that Gatlin would never risk coming back dirty - did he not do that once already? And also if he was that ashamed why would you go anywhere near a running track again?

Also morally, it is pretty easy to justify if you believe or are told that everyone else is doing it and you were just unlucky to get caught.

Although everybody outside of the sport think it is wrong your allies within the sport say it is ok and is part of putting on the show for the public.

Cycling continued on like that for years and it was obviously from the outside that PEDs were common but it is still not clear who was using, who was not using, how much benefit they got.

Lots of accusations, lots of half truths and a few full truths but no integrity that the results have any substance..apart from banned ones...

I am by no means defending a doper, I am defending someone who was a doper, but now I think is clean and has paid the price for his mistake and against all odds has managed to make it back.

Speedfirst wrote:

I believe that even if Bolt Turns up 100% race ready, he will still have no answer to Gatlin.

I'm calling it now

Gatlin 9.54

Bolt 9.78

dasloulu 9.89

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