Is Farah the next Lagat?

3:28.93 at age 32...

Watch out Bernard...

Has to be a 32 y.o. best

Willis is not too far behind. I'm assuming that Willis achieved the 31 yo best last year.

Mnbmnnbmnjk wrote:

3:28.93 at age 32...

Monaco doesn't count for shit. No way does Mo break 3:30 anywhere else.

When will you stop complaining about the "Monaco trampoline track"?

Hey may or may not become a super vet as he has said he will retire after 2017. Not sure I believe that but we'll see. Although many on here have come to believe that early to even mid 30 year olds are past their prime I do not. I think the reason we are seeing better performances from older people is because better sport science and they have incentive to keep training and competing. Back in the day not many had the money to continue pursuing running past their 20s. Sponsorship that paid the bills is relatively new in the running world. We are seeing men close to 40 from 100-marathon show that they can still compete. If they can still compete and get paid why not?? Hope we see more athletes with longer careers.

Well, Farah never tested positive.

And with never, I mean neither A nor B sample.

Lance never tested postive either, meaning neither A nor B sample.

Running a fast paced race doesn't mean anything? You're illiterate, and autistic. You don't respect the demands of a fast paced race. You're just like every idiot who thinks they know a ton about running, you think it is more impressive to win in 3:42 with a 51 seconds last lap rather than to run a mans race, and have it be a some what strung out fast pace.

Learn general knowledge about racing before you try stating illogical and irrelevant thoughts

Juhygtfr wrote:

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Who would have known that you could improve a 1500m PR by 10 seconds between age 25 and 30.

What is/was the single age best at 1500m for 30 y.o.?

Had I known that I could improve my 1500m PB by 10 seconds between age 25 and 30 and then maintain that for another 2 years, I would have stayed in competitive running a little longer and would have become an Olympian...

Mnbmnnbmnjk wrote:

3:28.93 at age 32...

Watch out Bernard...

Has to be a 32 y.o. best

Willis is not too far behind. I'm assuming that Willis achieved the 31 yo best last year.

Willis is insanely underrated. He is what Webb should have been.

Old Man Winter wrote:

When will you stop complaining about the "Monaco trampoline track"?

When it's demolished and all mid-d performances there are stricken from the all-time lists and record books.

Have I mentioned that among currently competing elite milers, only Kiplagat and Kiprop have ever broken 3:30 outside Monaco? And none have broken 3:29. Farah is no 3:28 man.

Bernard Lagat broke 3:30 at 5 different locations, and broke 3:28 at 3. That's because he was legitly capable of running those times. The current huge crop of sub-3:30 men are one-track ponies. Not legit.

Neither Lance wrote:

Lance never tested postive either, meaning neither A nor B sample.

He tested positive four times in 1999.

Nutella1 wrote:

Well, Farah never tested positive.

And with never, I mean neither A nor B sample.

Yes he did. Please think before posting

Apparently I should think too! The above was meant for the lance comment.

I'm sick of all this "Monaco times shouldn't count" nonsense. Are you people too incompetent to realize that the timing of this meet is literally perfect? Everybody is nearing their top shape with worlds looming just weeks away, and its pretty much one last attempt to get a fast 1500 time down for the year. Everybody in that race is there for one reason- to run fast. It has nothing to do with a trampoline track, rather that nearly all the top milers in the world run at this meet at a perfect point in the season to try and PR. You people are unbelievable.

Nutella1 wrote:

Well, Farah never tested positive.

And with never, I mean neither A nor B sample.

Yes but he had the doorbellgate episode

Roughly equivalent to bernies b sample

Bad Wigins wrote:

Mnbmnnbmnjk wrote:

3:28.93 at age 32...

Monaco doesn't count for shit. No way does Mo break 3:30 anywhere else.

I thought Deanouk did a good job of quantifying the Monaco effect. The track seems to be worth approx 2.5 seconds, making Mo about a 3:31.5 guy on a typical DL track. Still damn fast for a sub 27 10k guy and says a lot about why he's so hard to beat in his main events.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Have I mentioned that among currently competing elite milers, only Kiplagat and Kiprop have ever broken 3:30 outside Monaco? And none have broken 3:29. Farah is no 3:28 man.

Bernard Lagat broke 3:30 at 5 different locations, and broke 3:28 at 3. That's because he was legitly capable of running those times. The current huge crop of sub-3:30 men are one-track ponies. Not legit.

If you look at the 21 top 1500 performance of the year, 10 were done in Monaco and 11 were done in Paris. A lot of the same guys in both races. The difference is that Kiprop was in Monaco and just went from the start, so Monaco was faster.

...or is Paris (and Zurich) also a trampoline?

Nutella1 wrote:

Well, Farah never tested positive.

And with never, I mean neither A nor B sample.

You can't test positive if you don't open the door when the drug testers knock.

Gyvgygvyyvgyvg wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Have I mentioned that among currently competing elite milers, only Kiplagat and Kiprop have ever broken 3:30 outside Monaco? And none have broken 3:29. Farah is no 3:28 man.

Bernard Lagat broke 3:30 at 5 different locations, and broke 3:28 at 3. That's because he was legitly capable of running those times. The current huge crop of sub-3:30 men are one-track ponies. Not legit.

If you look at the 21 top 1500 performance of the year, 10 were done in Monaco and 11 were done in Paris. A lot of the same guys in both races. The difference is that Kiprop was in Monaco and just went from the start, so Monaco was faster.

...or is Paris (and Zurich) also a trampoline?

I'll put a different spin on the point I think Bad Wig is making: no one has broken 3:29 for 1500m on a track other than Monaco since 2004, and all of those fast Monaco times have come after the Monaco track was resurfaced in 2010. Deanouk went year by year 2010 - present to compare best times at Monaco to best times elsewhere and arrived at a correction factor of 2 - 2.5 seconds (aka about 1%). None of that proves the Monaco track fails to conform to IAAF rules, but it does suggest the track is distinctly faster than other DL tracks when it comes to 1500m running.