Will he lose speed and have it affect his 400m speed come spring time? I'm curious why it would or wouldn't physiologically?
Will he lose speed and have it affect his 400m speed come spring time? I'm curious why it would or wouldn't physiologically?
All the XC/400 runners I remember ran faster 400's the following spring after a XC season. Unfortunately, I also know of a few 400 guys who were moved up to the 800/1600 by their coaches after running college cross country, and who subsequently never pr'd in the 400 again.
No
You'll just be an 800 runner
HS or College? Akino Ming of Johnson C. Smith (DII) ran XC in college in the past and still ran very well in the 400m track season. And that's 8k...
My HS coach had everyone out for XC building base fitness is important to every runner. Our big gun ran 4x110 all the way to 4x880 and was our number 5 XC guy too. At HS level the best athlete usually has a good range.
No!
I don't think it will necessarily make them faster if they participate like a regular XC guy, but at the very least they will come into the indoor season ready to train and when asked to run the 800 it won't seem so scary. What I use to do was drop the long run and substitute it with hill sprints.
Some of the best 400m runners ever ran XC in high school and some of them were pretty good XC runners. With that said, 400m sprinters can benefit just as much by other types of training during the fall.
XC will help a 400 runner more than football or any other fall sport. Not only should it help them get faster, it will help them to be able to double and triple in meets, plus run the 500 indoors.
stop trying to turn your sprinters into distance runners. Let them play football or soccer or something in the fall. If they wanted to do xc, they'd be running the 800 and up to begin with. Only have them do xc as a last resort, if they are not interested in any sport other than track and not willing to train on their own. Its too bad swimming isn't a fall sport. Nearly all swimmers are sprinters.
400m SPRINTERS do not need cross country. It is pointless unless you are the 400/800 type.
People who say it makes you faster don't know what they are talking about.
"400m SPRINTERS do not need cross country."
This is true but until someone runs cross country in HS they don't know if they are a SPRINTER who has to run the 400 because they aren't fast enough to run the 100 or an 800 runner or even miler who hasn't trained enough.
9-waNqopuJH d wrote:
"400m SPRINTERS do not need cross country."
This is true but until someone runs cross country in HS they don't know if they are a SPRINTER who has to run the 400 because they aren't fast enough to run the 100...
That's where you lost me. You should NOT become a 400m sprinter because you aren't fast enough to run the 100. Speed is the basis for all sprints.
General Zod wrote:
Nearly all swimmers are sprinters.
Where in the world did you get that idea from?
xenonscreams wrote:
General Zod wrote:Nearly all swimmers are sprinters.
Where in the world did you get that idea from?
Almost all swimming events are 200 meters or shorter and last 3 minutes or under.
Depends on what "doing xc" means.
If they run in a few races, but the training is very modified for the 400 person, then no problem.
otherwise football or soccer may be better alternatives.
David Oliver ran a XC meet in college.
grfgrdfs wrote:
Almost all swimming events are 200 meters or shorter and last 3 minutes or under.
There is one 50 (equivalent to the 200), and there are four 100s (equivalent to the 400), five 200s (equivalent to the 800 and thus no longer a sprint), two 400s (LCM/SCM) or a 400 and a 500 (SCY), and then there's the 800/1000 and the 1500/1650. In high school you don't do some of the longer events, but most good high school swimmers also do club, so they do those longer events too.
"You should NOT become a 400m sprinter because you aren't fast enough to run the 100."
So who should become a 400m runner?
grfgrdfs wrote:
Almost all swimming events are 200 meters or shorter and last 3 minutes or under.
3 minutes ain't a sprint, b
We had a guy on my HS cross country team in the 80s who was a 400 (and sometimes 200 and 4x100) runner. He hated XC and was usually our number 6 or 7 guy, but our coach was a big believer in aerobic strength for 400 and up and made him do it. The guy ran 48-49 for the 400. I can't say for sure if XC made him slower or faster but I tend to believe like my coach that aerobic endurance is important in the 400.
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