Salazar Quote of the Day

Bob Larsen and Joe Vigil started Team USA California (Mammoth) for the exact same reason and both of them have seen an Olympic Medal in the marathon. Deena in London and Meb in New York have both made US marathoning relevant.

The Hansons started their program also for the same reason. Desiree Davila has been 2nd at Boston within 2 seconds of a victory and gave all of us Americans a chance to think we have a chance.

Salazar has never coached a marathoner that has made any of us take notice other than prerace hype.

He's coached Ritz to 2:07 and Kara to the podium at Boston. He's coached Ritz and Rupp to break the 13 minute barrier. Kara and Mo Farah have WC medals. Rupp and Farah have Olympic medals. STFU. He's done a lot for the sport and he's clean.

Are you sure that he meant battling for the win in the race, did he mean that Ritz's training was focused on battling for the win?

You seem to forget the crop of 2:04-2:06 Eth/Ken that have hit the scene.

The marathon is deeper now than ever.

PLEASE don't waste my time telling me what is going to happen or what he has accomplished in other events. It is irrelevant as to what the quote is all about.

#YOBRO wrote:

You seem to forget the crop of 2:04-2:06 Eth/Ken that have hit the scene.

The marathon is deeper now than ever.

The same crop of Kenyans that he was able to beat for shorter distances.

HE IS NOT A MARATHON COACH.

Watch the praise for a 9th place finish in Chicago after being disgusted with a 6th place finish in Boston 12 years ago.

Lets measure success wrote:

PLEASE don't waste my time telling me what is going to happen or what he has accomplished in other events. It is irrelevant as to what the quote is all about.

And if a Salazar-coached athlete won the New York Marathon this year, you'd say "PLEASE don't waste my time telling me about that. The quote was about the BOSTON marathon, so everything else is irrelevant."

It's always easy to make up your own criteria so that you can declare everyone else a failure. ("Oh, sure Rupp won an Olympic medal, but the field was weak and the time was slow and so on.") But what's the point?

That's a mute point. Try to keep up, moran.

hold the phone wrote:

And if a Salazar-coached athlete won the New York Marathon this year

I wet my pants laughing at that one. NEVER, EVER, will that happen. Although I bet that on several occasions he will have an athlete that is part of the Pre-race hype to win NY or Chicago or Boston.

Why did Kara leave again?

Because she realized that the marathon is her best event and it was NEVER going to happen with Alberto.

How many Olympians has he coached in the marathon? ONE, Dan Browne. With all the dollars and resources that Nike provides? ONE?

Remember the quote. We are only talking about the marathon.

Rupp will win the World Marathon Majors for 2016-2017.

Don't judge the artwork until it is finished.

Work In Progress wrote:

Rupp will win the World Marathon Majors for 2016-2017.

Don't judge the artwork until it is finished.

Which will then change his failing project. But in the first 12 years he has failed. Which is why the original post said........

"PLEASE don't waste my time telling me what is going to happen"

In 2001, did he say WHEN the project would reach success?

Nope. Just that it would. If a 20yr project is not completed in 12 years, who cares? It's not a waste of time telling you that you judge too soon. Or maybe it is...

morans wrote:

That's a mute point. Try to keep up, moran.

Your point about a mute point is moot because no one can hear a mute point, moron.

I think you are missing the main point. Alberto claimed that he could do a better job of coaching the marathon than was being done in 2001. Mr. Salazar has not yet done that. We wanted Obama impeached after 2 years because the job was not getting done. You want to give Mr. Salazar 20 years to get a winner in a major marathon. That is laughable.

The OP is right on with his/her analysis.

bwahahaha wrote:

morans wrote:

That's a mute point. Try to keep up, moran.

Your point about a mute point is moot because no one can hear a mute point, moron.

Right over your head big fella.

Work In Progress wrote:

In 2001, did he say WHEN the project would reach success?

Nope. Just that it would. If a 20yr project is not completed in 12 years, who cares? It's not a waste of time telling you that you judge too soon. Or maybe it is...

If you gave me twenty years, Nike resources, and access to many of the world's up and coming hopefuls for that full (and very long) period of time, I could likely produce a marathon champion. It's more of a matter of simple odds working in my favour at that point than coaching.

Its a fair point the OP brought up. Clearly Salazar's has/had intentions to improve U.S. marathon competitiveness, which, effective or not, I consider to be a good thing.

Do we know anything about how Salazar structures his training programs, and what adaptations he makes between the 5k/10k vs. the marathon? I would find that information really interesting.

I almost wonder if he focuses more on speed than other marathon coaches.

An excerpt:

My desire to win, no matter what the physical pain I had to endure, would be very

hard to ignore in the current age where many athletes feel it is impossible to be competitive

against the best in the world without doping. I believe that it is currently difficult to be

among the top 5 in the world in any of the distance events without using EPO or Human

Growth Hormone. While some of the top athletes may be clean, so many athletes are

running so fast that their performances are suspect. This is compounded for me by the fact

that the times these athletes are running just happen to coincide exactly with what top

exercise physiologists have calculated taking EPO would produce.

I would like to make it clear that I in no way condone doping and am glad I never felt forced

to seriously consider doing it, but I can definitely understand how a good moral person

might feel compelled to do so. That person might not even consider it cheating if they

believe all their top competitors are doing it.

We are talking about his LACK of success in marathon coaching, as inspired by his quote of the day.... not about what else his athletes have done in other events, not what they might do in the future, and not, for pete's sake, about doping.

On another note, is Ritz his only current marathoner?