Yeah, he's an Olympic and World Champion, but I feel like he wouldn't have the same "legend" status as Bekele or someone else.
Yeah, he's an Olympic and World Champion, but I feel like he wouldn't have the same "legend" status as Bekele or someone else.
with times so slow, he is no Geb or Bekele in my mind yet. He's obviously good but until he has the times behind him he will be overshadowed.
His double gold at the olympics alone is enough to cement his status as a legend.
He's been good for 2 years, so no, not a legend yet.
He's got the medals but not the times.
I don't think one can be a legend until they break a world record.
He's obviously not a Bekele, but he's a legend. A double Olympic gold medalist is certainly going to be a legend in Britain.
Billy Mills is a legend.
So, Farah would be a legend.
Of course your nationality would decide legend status.
Mills is not a legend to the Kenyans.
he's quoted after road win coupla days ago that he values his unbeaten outdoor record since daewoo 10k in '11 as ~ very precious
with that in mind, it's hard to see him chasing fast times on the circuit ( unless low key meet ) & risk blowing up
still, his 12'53pb off a totally crap 4th k of something like 2'40 ( & some other rubbish at 2 or 3k ) indicated a 12'45 guy
he's shown damn fast 5k theoretical capability despite "only" a 12'53 ( i don't rate his 10k that good - a 26'30/26'35 guy couda run away from him in london )
overall, golds + theoretical 5k ability in '11 =
legend
ventolin^3 wrote:
he's quoted after road win coupla days ago that he values his unbeaten outdoor record since daewoo 10k in '11 as ~ very precious
with that in mind, it's hard to see him chasing fast times on the circuit ( unless low key meet ) & risk blowing up
still, his 12'53pb off a totally crap 4th k of something like 2'40 ( & some other rubbish at 2 or 3k ) indicated a 12'45 guy
he's shown damn fast 5k theoretical capability despite "only" a 12'53 ( i don't rate his 10k that good - a 26'30/26'35 guy couda run away from him in london )
overall, golds + theoretical 5k ability in '11 =
legend
Because someone can doesn't mean they did.
His theoretical 5k ability should play absolutely no part in whether he is a legend or not.
ventolin^3 wrote:
he's quoted after road win coupla days ago that he values his unbeaten outdoor record since daewoo 10k in '11 as ~ very precious
with that in mind, it's hard to see him chasing fast times on the circuit ( unless low key meet ) & risk blowing up
still, his 12'53pb off a totally crap 4th k of something like 2'40 ( & some other rubbish at 2 or 3k ) indicated a 12'45 guy
he's shown damn fast 5k theoretical capability despite "only" a 12'53 ( i don't rate his 10k that good - a 26'30/26'35 guy couda run away from him in london )
overall, golds + theoretical 5k ability in '11 =
legend
"Theoretical" has no place in a legend discussion. You should only be judged based on what you actually did.
not really
i mean coe is a legend
got the medals and the times
same with geb bekele
Brennan has a mangina wrote:
His double gold at the olympics alone is enough to cement his status as a legend.
No, not yet, unless you are someone like Bannister or Owens, a legend denotes greatness over time.
He's already a living legend in Britain.
Ron Hill, Brendan Foster and David Bedford are all British legends and only won one Olympic bronze between them.
No and his late bloomer status only adds to PED suspicion.
Optimus wrote:"Theoretical" has no place in a legend discussion. You should only be judged based on what you actually did.
you woudn't be a legend with 12'53 & 26'46pbs no matter how many golds - go see 26'30 kemboi
his 12'53 showed a ~ 12'45 guy that day if pace had been kept up from 3k instead of chicken-sh!t jogging 'til bell
that's good enough for the required "fast time" component to be
legend
Not a Coach wrote:Ron Hill
only guy i'd put close to tergat for title of
"hardest man to ever step onto terra firma"
ventolin^3 wrote:
Optimus wrote:"Theoretical" has no place in a legend discussion. You should only be judged based on what you actually did.you woudn't be a legend with 12'53 & 26'46pbs no matter how many golds - go see 26'30 kemboi
his 12'53 showed a ~ 12'45 guy that day if pace had been kept up from 3k instead of chicken-sh!t jogging 'til bell
that's good enough for the required "fast time" component to be
legend
You're right, no one would be a legend with 12:53 and 26:46. I don't think Farah is a legend. The 5k/10k double at the Olympics isn't rare.
Hypothetical doesn't count. If he didn't run a 12:45, then he didn't run a 12:45. It doesn't matter if he could have, he didn't.
Farah isn't in the top 10 fastest all time in either the 5k or 10k. Does that sound like a legend to you?
Only in the UK. He doesn't have the records or even the times to be anywhere near "legend" status. He may get there but not today.
What is this legit double nonsense? If it was done at the Olympics, it was done at the Olympics.
The 5k/10k double has been done by:
Farah: 2012
Bekele: 2008
Yifter: 1980
Viren: 1972 & 19:76
Kuts: 1956
Zatopek: 1952
Kolehmainen: 1912
Something that's been done 8 times isn't rare.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that if an athlete didn't do something, THEY DIDN'T DO IT?! Hypotheticals/intrinsic/extrapolations/blah blah blah don't count because, and I know this is hard to understand, THEY DIDN'T RUN THOSE TIMES.
Shoulda,Coulda,Woulda can't be used in legend discussions.
I know you won't admit you're wrong so I'm done... If you don't get it by now you won't.