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eldanielfire
Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/23/2013 7:13PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Marta Dominguez's biological passport has shown anomalies in 2009, the year she won the world championship's steeplechase.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/sonia-o-sullivan-s-munich-conqueror-has-biological-passport-anomalies-1.1403384
majorstars
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/23/2013 7:37PM - in reply to eldanielfire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Another spanish cheater caught. Dirtiest country in the planet, yes even worse than Russia and Morocco.
Trollist
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/23/2013 8:45PM - in reply to majorstars Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

majorstars wrote:

Another spanish cheater caught. Dirtiest country in the planet, yes even worse than Russia and Morocco.


It still has nothing on the good ol' USA!
LetsRun.com
your benevolent dictator
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/23/2013 10:08PM - in reply to Trollist Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dominguez has been long associated with doping which we covered extensively in 2010:

http://www.letsrun.com/2010/marta-1223.php

As for the most recent allegation, it was first reported from the Spanish paper EL Pais:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/2013/05/21/actualidad/1369161123_744568.html&usg=ALkJrhje5qNjTk22qgqmcrAdB9L9uii9bA

A translation of the first paragraoh:


El Pais wrote:
In late January the committee responsible Anti-Doping International Athletics Federation (IAAF) notified Marta Dominguez who had discovered anomalies in biological passport that led them to conclude that at some point in his career had turned to blood doping ( Use of EPO or autologous). The notification, which the athlete responded with a series of technical arguments, was the penultimate step in a long process over a year that can be concluded in the coming weeks with a two-year ban for World Champion 3000 meters obstacles and Popular Party Senator . According to sources familiar with the case, the last step will be forthcoming IAAF athlete notifying the provisional suspension and sending the entire file to the Spanish federation, the competition committee will decide whether the sanctions for doping.
eldanielfire
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 1:05AM - in reply to majorstars Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

majorstars wrote:

Another spanish cheater caught. Dirtiest country in the planet, yes even worse than Russia and Morocco.


Say what you like about them but Russia has been on a mission to expose it's cheats since the creation of RUSADA. But it has a long way to go and a deep history. Sadly that doesn't appear to be true of a number of countries like Spain, Turkey and a few others. It seems lots of evidence points to East Africa being soft (due to inability or intention I don't know) and America often being to willing to accept excuses (Maggie Vessey's soft sentence).
yyy
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 3:07AM - in reply to eldanielfire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Then Kenyans are the next to go down - not!
Justice lover
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 8:33AM - in reply to majorstars Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Spain is bad but no, Russia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Turkey, Morocco are all absolutely 10 x worse when it comes to distance running. Furthermore the national police in those countries has zero interest in carrying out doping busts like they do in countries like Italy, France, and Spain.

Isn't it about time that the IAAF takes a leaf out of FINAs book and starts to simply ban countries for a period of say 10 years if they turn out a certain number of dopers within a year (I think that number is 4 for FINA)get caught? That would strike out Russia and Kenya this year for sure ...
A Duck
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 10:35AM - in reply to Justice lover Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Justice lover wrote:

Spain is bad but no, Russia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Turkey, Morocco are all absolutely 10 x worse when it comes to distance running. Furthermore the national police in those countries has zero interest in carrying out doping busts like they do in countries like Italy, France, and Spain.

Isn't it about time that the IAAF takes a leaf out of FINAs book and starts to simply ban countries for a period of say 10 years if they turn out a certain number of dopers within a year (I think that number is 4 for FINA)get caught? That would strike out Russia and Kenya this year for sure ...



Penalties need to be stronger, and getting those stronger penalties in place needs to be quicker.

The current system, as far as penalties is nonsense.

Lifetime bans, or ten year bans. It needs to be punitive enough to act as a massive deterrent.
just sayin
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 11:31AM - in reply to A Duck Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
another gold medal lost to a drug cheat for sonia

along with sydney 2000 and gothenburg 93
eldanielfire
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 1:50PM - in reply to Justice lover Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Justice lover wrote:

Spain is bad but no, Russia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Turkey, Morocco are all absolutely 10 x worse when it comes to distance running. Furthermore the national police in those countries has zero interest in carrying out doping busts like they do in countries like Italy, France, and Spain.

Isn't it about time that the IAAF takes a leaf out of FINAs book and starts to simply ban countries for a period of say 10 years if they turn out a certain number of dopers within a year (I think that number is 4 for FINA)get caught? That would strike out Russia and Kenya this year for sure ...


There is little to no evidence of Ethiopia involved in any major doping so I'm not sure where that comes form besides your own mind. It is also not a great to only make the comparison with distance running alone, Spain aren't massive distance runners and Morocco and Russia's dopers are mostly mid-distance. As it happens RUSADA since their creation in 2010 have helped trap a ton of dopers. It may be rife in Russia but the authorities appears to have had enough and are battling it, unlike Spain which is being shown as one of the most corrupt countries where doping in sport is concerned or even Australia which has an organised criminal control widespread which the authorities don't appear fussed about how the attention has died down. Let's not forget the USA and their raft of soft joke sentences for an excuse from colds to herbal medicines to beauty treatments and the cover ups from the past.
Apostrophe Crimes
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:01PM - in reply to eldanielfire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

eldanielfire wrote:


majorstars wrote:

Another spanish cheater caught. Dirtiest country in the planet, yes even worse than Russia and Morocco.


Say what you like about them but Russia has been on a mission to expose *it's cheats since the creation of RUSADA. But it has a long way to go and a deep history. Sadly that doesn't appear to be true of a number of countries like Spain, Turkey and a few others. It seems lots of evidence points to East Africa being soft (due to inability or intention I don't know) and America often being to willing to accept excuses (Maggie Vessey's soft sentence).


its cheats
António Cabral
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:11PM - in reply to eldanielfire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It´s not Ethiopia that is involved. That´s the managers, the representatives. For example Jos Hermans - representative of Bekele and Gebressalassie.
Hermans wouldn´t another Bekele or another Gebressalassie, because apart of their talent - yes, they got talent - they got some undetected drug help.
Titus
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:15PM - in reply to António Cabral Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rupp and radcliffe; the poster cabbage patch kids of doping.
António Cabral
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:19PM - in reply to António Cabral Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
On Marta Dominguez, or Lance Armstrong and some others. They are the prove that it´s possible to take EPO and never been caught.

They were take EPO and blood transfusion and every other kind of drug for decades.

The rare cases of drug caught were more victims than guilty. They were victims of a drug use that most did use, independely if some drugs works or don´t.

The debate it´s not on the level of if that or that drug works or don´t. The fact is that´s illegal and then no moral or ethic reason to be accepted at any calss of competitors.
Trollist
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:27PM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

just sayin wrote:

another gold medal lost to a drug cheat for sonia

along with sydney 2000 and gothenburg 93


lol
Zlatan
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:38PM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just looked up the results from 93 world champs.

Liu Dong won the 1500 by 3 seconds!! Biggest margin of victory in a world 1500 ever?? Sonia second and she was nearly a full second ahead of 3rd.


Also a fine collection of medals that Dominguez has that needs redistributing.
http://i.imgur.com/tFCFedR.png
just sayin
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:55PM - in reply to Zlatan Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
just sayin
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:58PM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
hey trollist whats your point
besides lol


just sayin like.....................
Ongoing Investigation
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 2:58PM - in reply to eldanielfire Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

eldanielfire wrote:


or even Australia which has an organised criminal control widespread which the authorities don't appear fussed about how the attention has died down.


The investigation in Australia is ongoing by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority, Australian Crime Commission and other government authorities. The involvement to date appears to be mainly the football codes, excluding soccer. The Essendon Football Club has just had their players individually interviewed, each one for up to two hours, the Cronulla Sharks are next.

Travis Tygart, USADA had something to say recently too:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/travis-tygart-understands-the-pressure-that-is-brought-to-bear-upon-those-investigating-our-sporting-heroes/story-fni3gokz-1226650223829

http://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&lr=&tbs=qdr%3Aw&q=australian+crime+commission+asada+drug+investigation+&oq=australian+crime+commission+asada+drug+investigation+&gs_l=serp.12...70562.75288.0.77336.10.10.0.0.0.0.284.1103.5j1j3.9.0...0.0...1c.1.14.serp.4IosxyeYXWA
Trollist
RE: Marta Dominguez caught doping 5/24/2013 3:06PM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

just sayin wrote:

hey trollist whats your point
besides lol


just sayin like.....................


I'm laughing at your implication that these women were doing something Sonia O'Sullivan was not.
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