Why does Ice Hockey have more scholarships available than track or baseball?

Why does being good at a hobby nobody cares about (well, I care, and so do your parents, but we are in the minority) entitle you to a free education?

Just be happy that you can have many colleges to go to where you can pursue your interest in T&F and/or running. Wrestling, swimming, soccer, gymnastics, etc are far worse off.

Extra-curricular activities are great and have a lot of value, but scholarships for athletes arent very important to me. A few football and basketball guys deserve them due to helping sell tickets/tv contracts, but that is about it.

disclaimer - I am a former d3 guy

It provides educational opportunities for French Canadians.

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Why does baseball have any? It ain't even a sport.

Schools that play hockey are exactly that kind of school that doesn't care about football. Maybe that's why they get 18 scholarships.

It may also have to do with trying to compete with Canada. If US schools don't get enough scholarships to field a whole team (18 is almost enough), then why would any of the good players want to play in the US?

The NCAA is a scam born of old-style amateur athletics anyhow. They pay student-athletes scholarships worth a few tens of thousands, but they make way more money than that. Football and basketball players in particular make millions for their schools, and never see a dime of actual pay because they're not good enough to be "professional" after they graduate. The NCAA is almost obscene the way it forbids schools to give athletes so much as a free lunch, but has no problem with the schools keeping the vast amounts of money for their own use.

But sports with their own development systems are out of the reach of NCAA exploitation. Baseball players turn pro right out of high school and move up through the minors. Hockey players also mostly bypass the NCAA. If the NCAA didn't allow a bunch of scholarships for hockey schools, it would lose the little ice hockey it has.

but why can't a college have the freedom to decide for themselves how they want to allocate their scholarships.

Former State Qualifier wrote:

Why does being good at a hobby nobody cares about (well, I care, and so do your parents, but we are in the minority) entitle you to a free education?

Just be happy that you can have many colleges to go to where you can pursue your interest in T&F and/or running. Wrestling, swimming, soccer, gymnastics, etc are far worse off.

Extra-curricular activities are great and have a lot of value, but scholarships for athletes arent very important to me. A few football and basketball guys deserve them due to helping sell tickets/tv contracts, but that is about it.

disclaimer - I am a former d3 guy

lots of people care about running. Have you not seen the crowds at Boston and NY? People drive 10 hours to get to Terre Haute to watch the race. The marathon is the national sport of Japan, basically. They care about it the same way people in America care about the NFL. The stadium at Oregon is packed for meets. I know you hear stories about some fatty Brit who doesn't even know who Mo Farah is, but running is one of the most popular sports in the world.

The Rocket. wrote:

but why can't a college have the freedom to decide for themselves how they want to allocate their scholarships.

The NCAA sets those limits. Presidents of the member institutions voted on it. The idea is to level the playing field. At one time there was NO limit on scholarships.

85 scholarships for NCAA football is ludicrous. That's enough for each offensive and defensive position to be scholarshipped 4 people deep.

Football ought to be played the old style one platoon so all players play offense, defense, and special teams, and you can only leave the game for a substitution once a half.

Seriously, since football is a purely male sport, how can NCAA get away with 85 scholarships in light of Title IX?

And the OP makes a great point. Why can't there be bigger limits on other sports so a school can distribute it's scholarships cafeteria style.

Then there would be 150 football scholarships and 25 men's basketball scholarships.

The Rocket. wrote:

but why can't a college have the freedom to decide for themselves how they want to allocate their scholarships.

Um, those people are only there to watch their friends/family run. Also, which Ncaa schools are known for the marathon?

the fact of the matter is that most sports are lucky to be getting anything. I wish it weren't the case, but popularity = more money and that's the way it should be.

Hating it wrote:

Then there would be 150 football scholarships and 25 men's basketball scholarships.

Lol so true

People buy tickets to college hockey games, usually 12-15 home games a year. They do not buy tickets to track meets, and most schools don't charge for baseball either.Follow the money bro.

The Rocket. wrote:

This makes no sense. Why is track maxed out at 12.6 scholarships when there are 20 events? Likewise why is there a max of 11.7 scholarships available when most baseball teams have 25 man rosters. Meanwhile ice hockey has a max of 18 and football a max of 85.

If a school wanted to focus on baseball or track rather than football shouldn't they have that right?

I understand title 9 and balancing scholarships with the enormous amount that football requires, but what if a university didn't care about football, but wanted other sports to really shine?

Thoughts? Solutions?

[quote]west coast wrote:

People buy tickets to college hockey games, usually 12-15 home games a year. They do not buy tickets to track meets, and most schools don't charge for baseball either.

Follow the money bro.[quote]

I would guess college football is a net money loser at most colleges but most keep it up for name recognition.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Schools that play hockey are exactly that kind of school that doesn't care about football. Maybe that's why they get 18 scholarships.

This is the April D1 Hockey Rankings.

I see many schools with football programs.

1 Yale (47)

3 UMass-Lowell

4 St. Cloud State

5 Miami (Ohio)

6 Minnesota

7 North Dakota

8 Notre Dame

9 Boston College

10 Union

11 New Hampshire

12 Wisconsin

13 Minnesota State

14 Denver

15 Niagara

16 Western Michigan

17 Boston University

18 Providence

19 Canisius

20 Michigan

The Rocket. wrote:This makes no sense. Why is track maxed out at 12.6 scholarships when there are 20 events?

It's 18 for women.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Schools that play hockey are exactly that kind of school that doesn't care about football. Maybe that's why they get 18 scholarships.

National Champion Yale (Ivy League) offers no athletic scholarships in hockey. Nor does #10 Union College.

LOL, so hilarious when you guys call it "ICE Hockey", silly Americans!!!

You amuse easily up there. "Ice hockey" and "field hockey" are different sports. Both have long histories, but field hockey is the older of the two games.