Sean Mcgorty "The Next Big Thing"

3 sub 15 min 5k's***

I haven't seen such a remarkable running resume since Quenton Cassidy.

Yes, he has a chance to break 4.

Is it very likely? Right now I would think not.

It takes something VERY special to break 4 in the mile in high school, which is why every year, runners can get extremely close, but never make it (Donald Sage and German Fernandez come to mind)

If you compare McGorty with the last high schooler to break 4, Lukas Verzbicas, you'll see that as a senior, he doesn't quite stack up.

When Lukas broke 4 in the mile he had accomplished all of the following:

-Undefeated in Cross Country for his ENTIRE High School Career including two victories at Footlocker and one at NXN.

-13:53 3-mile at the IL State XC Championships

-14:18 Indoor 5k Record his FRESHMAN YEAR

-14:06 Indoor 5k Record

-8:53 2-Mile his Freshman Year

-8:43 Indoor 2-Mile in his Opening Race

-8:40 Indoor 2-Mile leading from start to finish

-Triple National Crown at New Balance Indoor Nationals

-4:04 Mile the previous year

In this sense, McGorty would be VERY lucky to break 4 with the accomplishments he has so far, as good as they are.

lol you missed Lukas's most important/notable accomplishment.

he ran F.UCKING 8:29 FOR 2 MILES?

Bostonfan94 wrote:

Outdoor ran 8:46 3200m opener and won by 1:09 seconds with 20mph winds and dominated the penn relays mile and by doing so proved to everyone that he can hang with the fast milers with blistering 800m speed, like the likes of Ben Malone.

Got a link? What I'm seeing says 4:13 mile and 9:05 3200m for 2013.

Oh there it is:

http://va.milesplit.com/articles/104361-sean-mcgorty-8-4607-3200-at-lake-braddock-watch-race-video

But, I also found him losing to a junior at state indoors:

Top 5 were:

Finals

1 Colson, Louis (11) Thomas Edison (9:15.42) 9:06.61$

2 McGorty, Sean (12) Chantilly (8:55.38) 9:06.63$

3 Calkins, Ronnie (12) Douglas S. Fre. (9:28.61) 9:14.28

4 Tuck, Nick (12) Lake Braddock (9:24.11) 9:18.38

5 Haight, Mackenzie (11) George C. Marshall (9:36.73) 9:21.32

http://imgur.com/v7sTLhR

Uh yeah but this was after he ran a 4:11. It was his only time losing before nationals. Pretty much a rarety to be honest. My bad.

trolling letsrun isn't going to help make McGorty look better than he is.

But in case you aren't trolling, I'll limit my response to just one specific oddity in your post.

Virginia's State course is nowhere near "the hardest most hilliest around in that region of the U.S." ... limiting it to just state meet courses:

These are the state meet courses within 350 miles of the Virginia State Meet -

Hereford MD (109 miles away)

Hershey PA (135 miles away)

Holmdel NJ (261 miles away)

Ona WV (324 miles away)

Wappingers Falls NY (339 miles away)

Hebron OH (346 miles)

Delaware's state meet course is also within 350 miles, but the problem is they rotate courses... I know some of those courses are slower than Virginia's, but off the top of my head I can't say they all are. But of the rest of the state meets within 350 miles, only one is as fast as Virginia's (Ohio), with most of them being notably slower and more challenging. Maryland's, for example, is much slower DESPITE being 3 miles compared to Virginia's 5k. This isn't because Virginia's state meet course is blazing fast (it isn't), but because Virginia's state meet course is a little faster (but not drastically so) than "average" for a state meet course, and it's in an area of the nation where they have pretty challenging state meet courses.

McGorty is a great runner. I don't get the need to come on here and act like he's "the next big thing", when he's merely amongst his peers (anywhere from US#2-6 at this point this year IMO ... Cheserek still #1, but the ones with the best argument for overtaking him are Arroyo, Saarel and Malone)

Some thoughts:1. You can't go "undefeated in every race except" a race. You're either undefeated or you aren't. He wasn't. It would be more accurate to say he won every race but for the Footlocker Nationals. Or you could say he was undefeated until Footlocker Nationals.2. Your second sentence grammatically implies that he ran 14:47 on the Virginia State course at Footlocker Nationals. You need two sentences here.3. A course can be "hilliest" or "most hilly," but it cannot be "most hilliest."4. Re indoor, again, you could say we went undefeated until Nationals, not except Nationals. 5. A track cannot be "very flat." It's either flat or it isn't.You're welcome.

Uh absolutely not. The 8:46 3200 he ran completely overshadows the 8:45 Saral ran. First of all, Saral runs that with a bunch of elite runner Mcgorty runs the 8:46 with a group of basically 10 min 2 milers. So he takes it im upon himself to smash everyone in there, and on top of that, there was SUSTAINED 20mph winds. So don't sit there and tell me Sarel is better than mcgorty when he's not. No one can take control of a race like mcgorty can. Period. Andres arroyo is the only you pointed out that can beat mcgorty in my opinion. Cheserek, ehh he's really good but inconsistent at some points and isn't a better racer than mcgorty. Ok yes, he's beaten mcgorty at nationals, but he has defeat written on him at the dream mile. Look who's already beaten cheserek this year? Plus his mechanics are just flat out horrible. It still amazes me that he manages to run the times he does, ecspecially when he tries to close at the end, with all the b.s. wailing arms and what not.

While I am a huge fan of McGorty, I am a little surprised that he has not put up better 800 times and that makes me wonder about his top end speed. Can he close like some of the other Dream Mile runners?

I'm really excited about the upcoming race and about watching the development of this class as a whole.

What excuse are you going to use when he loses at the Dream Mile?

I watched both the VA state meet at The Plains and also his 3200m at Lake Braddock.

1. The Plains is not one of the toughest courses. It isn't a cake walk, but I would call it fair.

2. Have you any idea what sustained 20mph wind feels like? Maybe there was a GUST of 20mph here or there but for the most part on that day it was lightly breezy at best. It was an impressive run considering he ran by himself, but quit exaggerating.

He's a national level runner, but not something that isn't seen every year.

I never said he was gonna win the Dream Mile, all i said, is that he has a very high chance on going sub 4. And going to the 800, the guy ran 1:53.55 and won by over 3 seconds with no competition. Then he ran a 1:52 on a SMR relay leg at an invitational. If he ever ran the 800m fresh at states, he would run 1:50 or faster. This dude has only ran 5 races so far, while all these other athletes have run MULTIPLE races. Sean Mcgorty OPENED UP his season with an 8:46 3200m and won by over a minute. then he went to penn relays and completely lead the whole race and dropped to a 4:03 1600m when all indoor he ran 4:11. This guy has gotten a lot more quality training than these other guys because of the fact he hasn't raced as much. So he's definately going to be the freshest guy out there and not burned out at all.

I'm a big fan of McGorty, not trying to take anything away from him here, but the Great Meadows State Meet course is really not all that tough. I've personally run it within the last few years, and while it is hilly, it doesn't even compare to Delaware's Brandywine Creek course.

Great Meadows isn't even the hardest course in the area -- I'd put Oatlands, Handley, and Maymont above it in difficulty (in that order). The non-State meet version is also harder, as it sends you up the same double long hill twice, where the state course only sees it once.

Post under different names much?

Rambo97x312 wrote:

Sean Mcgorty OPENED UP his season with an 8:46 3200m and won by over a minute. then he went to penn relays and completely lead the whole race and dropped to a 4:03 1600m when all indoor he ran 4:11.

Eeeeeasy there big fella. 4:03? Try 4:04.5.

Soon people will be saying it was a 4:02 at penn, and then 4:00.5 at penn.

Next thing you know you'll be telling us that Ryan Hall isn't a 2:04 marathoner...

table wrote:

Eeeeeasy there big fella. 4:03? Try 4:04.5.

Soon people will be saying it was a 4:02 at penn, and then 4:00.5 at penn.

4:04.5 1600 = 4:06 mile. Six seconds is a lot of time to drop. I could see the guy running 4:03.47 at Dream Mile.