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thisbloke
Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 4:43AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rumour has it Asbel Kiprop will make an attempt on the revered 1500m World Record of 3:26.00 at Monaco DL - of all the people who throw around talk about attempting such a feat - is he the man with the best chance of running such a time?
Good Wigins
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 4:45AM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Kiprop has no chance at breaking 3:26. No chance.
just sayin
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 4:48AM - in reply to Good Wigins Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
nope he can't do it

no one can

it absolutely can't be done without peds

and if you wish to revere doped records so be it
yyy
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 4:56AM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
obviously he can do it. He as much better 800m speed than did
ELG. 3:25 low.
Bad Wigins
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 5:15AM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes but he'll have to actually make an effort.

After his 3:28 last year he wasn't even winded. He is the laziest fast guy in the world.
deanouk
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 6:36AM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

just sayin wrote:

nope he can't do it

no one can

it absolutely can't be done without peds

and if you wish to revere doped records so be it


I agree absolutely.

I think we've yet to see a clean run under 3:28.
I would be surprised if Kiprop runs below 3:28 in Monaco, although it seems a very fast track when looking at previous results there over the distance. He may inprove his pb of 3:28.8, but only if he's given even pace to bell and/or he has company on the last lap.
NJ Possible
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 6:52AM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't pretend to know who was on PEDs and who still is. But his 3:28 looked so smooth I have to think he's capable of at least 3:26 high. And while 3:26 may be as tainted as other records, it's still the WR and would be incredible to see surpassed.
just sayin
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 7:03AM - in reply to NJ Possible Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
and furthermore if kiprop is clean well he's the clean wr holder

cos none of those sub 3-29 guys are clean either

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_1500ok.htm


if there is then tell me which one?
wr potential
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 11:10AM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Very interesting. I think Kiprop would be a great WR holder and it was very unlucky that he was injured in the 2012 OG Final and couldn't whip Makhloufi's butt. So funny to see one of the Kenyans comment on Facebook to him how Makh is so obviously doped! A shame he also lost his moment of fame behind Ramzi in the 08 games (and I notice a Ramzi time on the list). To have it happen twice, once when injured and unable to counter attack at all, must be galling.

Looking at it, you could say Kiprop is a Bolt-like talent in the 1500m - with his height and long stride, surely he takes less steps in a race than the others? Kiplagat is only 1 sec down from 2010 (at the same meet?). He looks so smooth, and I can really believe he is the clean WR holder. He has the fastest time in 8 years since Athens 04 Games. Wasn't that around when an EPO test came out? ;)
george oscar bluth
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 11:22AM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
When I saw this race, I thought he'd be the next guy under 3:27. 4 years later and he's only had about one or two all out efforts to his name. He just doesn't have enough record attempts to really throw down a good time.

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?video_id=13535
ukathleticscoach
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 11:25AM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not enough of a front runner to do it

Suprised letsrun though his last race was so good. He ran like an idiot and only otheres performing relatively poorly gave him the win
Kip Rob
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 11:31AM - in reply to ukathleticscoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think Kiprop is on the same level as an El G or Lagat. Some might say that is because he is clean, but I remember he didn't even run sub 3:30 until pretty recently. Can he drop 3 seconds in a year's time? Something tells me that 3 seconds at that level is much harder than the difference between an A standard performance and a sub 3:30.
yyy
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 12:22PM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cacho.
webby
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 12:31PM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Two questions:
1. Who discovered that Kiprop is clean and everyone else under 3:29 is dirty?
2. How does the number of steps a person takes in a race determine speed?
crazy raisin
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 12:52PM - in reply to just sayin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

just sayin wrote:

and furthermore if kiprop is clean well he's the clean wr holder

cos none of those sub 3-29 guys are clean either

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_1500ok.htm


if there is then tell me which one?
If Kiprop is dirty then Alan Webb is the clean WR holder... tell me which one is
*
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 1:03PM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't know how you can go from hanging way back in a race and kicking to going for the world record in the next race.

Records come form an attitude of constantly pushing your limits.
Kiprop rarely does this.
He needs to explore getting out of his comfort zone.
Joplas
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 1:09PM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Kiprop should focus on a better running gait. And just add a little muscle to those spindly legs. And he might shave 1.0 sec off his PB
yyy
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 1:22PM - in reply to * Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he needs to lose some upper body mass.
ryan foreman
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 1:59PM - in reply to thisbloke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Easily he is the man with the best chance. With good conditions, good pacing, and above all if he truly has desire, then I think he can get close to it. I would be only a little surprised if he does it. But only because I question his "killer instinct" to achieve his goal.

In any case, there is no way his PB should be in the high 3:28s. It should be a good 2 seconds faster than that.
wtfunny
RE: Asbel Kiprop 1500m WR Attempt in Monaco: Is he the man for sub 3:26? 5/21/2013 2:39PM - in reply to ryan foreman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well, I'd suggest that making an attempt (if the rumor is true) denotes at least some "killer instinct". And I'm sure it may well take more than one attempt to at the record to break it .. he's gotta start somewhere. Good luck to him; he's certainly a likable athlete.

Get er' dun, bro.
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