So I'm considering transferring to Syracuse University. I currently run for a smaller D1 school.If I go to Syracuse, I would love to run but I'm not sure if my times are fast enough for their team. My prs:
800- 2:18
1500 - 4:46
3000 steeplechase- 10:50
5000- 19:15
Would those possibly get me a spot on the team? Or are they too slow?
The standard for high Div 1 CC depth is ability to break 18:00 at 5k. If you can't do that you probably won't get in any meets.
Don't even consider thinking about SU unless you first ask yourself "Do I want to live the lifestyle?"
It might be true, if you aren't fully committed don't waste Fox's time. But if you are, even if you aren't going to be an NCAA qualifier, he will give you a chance and coach you up.
Send him an e-mail.
Didn't Craig Miller's brother run for Syracuse? I think he ran the 800.
BBHulst wrote:
Don't even consider thinking about SU unless you first ask yourself "Do I want to live the lifestyle?"
What kind of weird stuff are you referencing? I think the girl just wants to run.
Do your homework.
Syracuse is getting an addition to their staff from Grand Valley State, an individual you don't want coaching you at all. A complete waste of a person.
Well, I went to the Syracuse website and took a look at the 2012 results for the SU women's xc/t&f teams (which I created BITD, coincidentally enough).
I saw cross times over 17min for 4200m; over 24min for a short 6000m; and over 20min for a 5000. Moreover, at the recent Big East outdoor meet--where presumably only SU's top women were competing--one just shaded 4:40 for 1500, and another (with a 10:59 seed time) was well over 11min in the steeple.
[Several years back, in fact, I saw track results for the SU women that included a 3000m time over 13min. Things probably have moved on from there, but I get the feeling that SU--to get something approaching parity, for Title IX purposes--is very welcoming to women with a variety of abilities.]
I would certainly suggest that someone who's been in the 19min range for 5k should get in touch with the coach, Chris Fox.
And regardless of whether you end up running for the team, SU is excellent academically, in a wide variety of majors.
Those times would not get you a spot on the XC team where they have a ton of depth. Using spring distance times, they show 8 women (only one senior) under 18:00 in the 5K. They don't even list any with times over 18:00 but it is safe to say they have another three of four whose 1500 time indicate they could run near 18:00 or better. Several who are not listed with times at 5K are serious 1500 runners including Nerud, Malone (Molly), Wright and Linde. With a dozen fall runners returning and their normal recruiting class, it's fair to say you would not run on even the "B" team for XC. All that said, 2:18 is pretty quick and your best relative event given your PRs. It would put you second on their team year to date. Problem is that while you could probably run for Syracuse, it's because they have no depth. A 2:18 wouldn't put you in the top 50 of the Big East. You have to be 2:12 to break the top 25.
Honestly you probably wouldn't be considered
Why not just email Coach Fox? What could it hurt?
According to this ( http://www.tfrrs.org/lists/1076.html?gender=f#19 ), a 10:50 steepler would have been Syracuse's #3--and top ten in the Big East.
Ivyguy wrote:
According to this (
http://www.tfrrs.org/lists/1076.html?gender=f#19), a 10:50 steepler would have been Syracuse's #3--and top ten in the Big East.
Interesting--a 10:30 wouldn't get a woman top ten in the Ivy League...
I've gotten the feeling that the Big East is outstanding at the top of many events, but drops off very rapidly from there.
Won't matter. Syracuse is no longer in the Big East.
Ask Nat