RuKiddingMe!!
Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 12:03AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2 or 3 ?
Lagsu
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 12:14AM - in reply to RuKiddingMe!! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
8 - 4 in the women's 1500 and 4 in the women's 5000
eleven
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 12:16AM - in reply to RuKiddingMe!! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
3 men in the 800
4 women in the 1500
4 women in the 5k
rojo
co-founder
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 12:22AM - in reply to RuKiddingMe!! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

RuKiddingMe!! wrote:

RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish?

2 or 3?


I gotta admit i just came in after meeting up with a former Cornell runner. Checked the thread and saw the results and let a bit of chuckle and thought, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there..."

There were a decent amount of As in the events where it's not critical to get an 'A' - women's 1500, women's 5k, men's 800, but what a dud other than that. How much money could you have made if you bet people there would be zero a's in the men's 5k and 1500 and steeples?

My takeaway from the meet:

Congrats Brandon Johnson and Katie Mackey and Mary Cain.
JumpinJackFlash
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 12:36AM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And Levins. He ran 3:36, a significant pr, and he is supposedly a 10000m man.


rojo wrote:


RuKiddingMe!! wrote:

RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish?

2 or 3?


I gotta admit i just came in after meeting up with a former Cornell runner. Checked the thread and saw the results and let a bit of chuckle and thought, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there..."

There were a decent amount of As in the events where it's not critical to get an 'A' - women's 1500, women's 5k, men's 800, but what a dud other than that. How much money could you have made if you bet people there would be zero a's in the men's 5k and 1500 and steeples?

My takeaway from the meet:

Congrats Brandon Johnson and Katie Mackey and Mary Cain.
bobobobob a ran
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 1:18AM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

rojo wrote:


RuKiddingMe!! wrote:

RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish?

2 or 3?


I gotta admit i just came in after meeting up with a former Cornell runner. Checked the thread and saw the results and let a bit of chuckle and thought, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there..."

There were a decent amount of As in the events where it's not critical to get an 'A' - women's 1500, women's 5k, men's 800, but what a dud other than that. How much money could you have made if you bet people there would be zero a's in the men's 5k and 1500 and steeples?

My takeaway from the meet:

Congrats Brandon Johnson and Katie Mackey and Mary Cain.




Next year people would be saying "wow, great early season results. 30 something guys ran an under 4:00 mile equivalent.

Mary Cain, of course. Mary INSANE.
qefwfege
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 8:22AM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"A" for the steeple is 8:26, Hughes was 8:25.95 which would be an "A" in the men's steeple. Unless this conversation is strictly new "A"s, in which case Hughes got the A at Stanford a few weeks ago.


How much money could you have made if you bet people there would be zero a's in the men's 5k and 1500 and steeples?
Right as day
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 10:38AM - in reply to eleven Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
While we are just trying to qualify the rest of the world is racing..
Shanghai :
8th place 3:35 men 1500 (3:36 wins oxy)
12th place 15:07 women 5k ( 15:05 wins oxy)
8th place 8:20 men steeple ( 8:25 wins oxy)
jammer
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 12:54PM - in reply to Right as day Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Right as day wrote:

While we are just trying to qualify the rest of the world is racing..
Shanghai :
8th place 3:35 men 1500 (3:36 wins oxy)
12th place 15:07 women 5k ( 15:05 wins oxy)
8th place 8:20 men steeple ( 8:25 wins oxy)
The "rest of the world" has significantly more depth, believe it or not.
big gulp
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 4:57PM - in reply to jammer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And far less resources to develop athletes..
We have the athletes , not the coaching ( outside of Salazar )..
fly a kite
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/18/2013 7:23PM - in reply to big gulp Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

big gulp wrote:

And far less resources to develop athletes..
We have the athletes , not the coaching ( outside of Salazar )..


AlSal isn't the only one, but your point is well taken. As long as College is the be-all and end-all of our coaching ranks (Pro's are seen as either second-rate or as stealing athletes from deserving College coaches), then far too few of the talented athletes will develop. That Mary Cain is running faster than Hasay did after 4 years of College is a shame (not blaming Oregon per se) and says that a better development system needs to be put into place by USATF. Frankly they too are to blame for this situation as they are a screwed up organization with absolutely no teeth to direct the development of athletes.
big gulp
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/19/2013 1:42AM - in reply to fly a kite Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Spot on !
College coaches have to win , points are the name of the game that keep them employed.
Options are limited for the athletes and even more so for coaches.
USATF has little or zero knowledge when its comes to direction and leadership to the bigger picture of a development system.
jjjjjjj
RE: Bottom line: How many "A" Standard did Oxy Accomplish? 5/20/2013 9:45PM - in reply to big gulp Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
11 A qualifiers in one small American meet is pretty stellar, but it was obviously disappointing for us track fans to see lackluster men's 1500m and 5000m races, considering the fields. And last year's steeple was also much better with Cabral, Jager, and Huling, Jager getting the A despite a fall on the last water jump.