He ran a 4:02 mile as a HS junior last year, and there were a few articles in February talking him up as a sub-4:00 threat this year. From what I can see his best mile this year is 4:23 ? Is that right ? Anyone know what's going on with him ? Not hating, just curious
his season best is 4:08 according to milesplit
he's fine. struggled with a minor tweak for a bit, but looking strong and quietly putting in work. should be right in the mix if he can lay off the ganj and booze for a while--great talent, but huuuge partier
whattt? wrote:
his season best is 4:08 according to milesplit
That's his season best in the 1600 from 2012.
all talent no work ethic, it catches up to ya
That's what happens when you live in West Virginia.
runnin' and bummin' wrote:
all talent no work ethic, it catches up to ya
I understand your frustration over the image he created in that mini-movie thing but your explanation doesn't completely make sense.
Deadman Running wrote:
whattt? wrote:his season best is 4:08 according to milesplit
That's his season best in the 1600 from 2012.
Don't be an idiot.
He ran 4:08 at Eastern Relays, placing 3rd.
You're right. I didn't scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page. My bad. No need to get all insulting about it - but I know this is LRC. One mistake and you're an idiot. That's kinda why I asked if 4:23 was his best time this year though.
There are only a small handful of opportunities for guys like him to run a mile PR. Being in West Virginia as opposed to California or New York certainly doesn't help, as his region isn't very competitive.
Alan Webb didn't really get a good chance to run an outdoor mile until Prefontaine and then bam, 3:53.
That is completely untrue.
Webb had plenty of fast races, and a much hyped mile matchup with Ryan Hall (along with at least one of the Jeffersons and a handful of other fast guys)at Arcadia. Kind of the dream mile of it's day. If I remember right, it slowed on the third lap and Webb ripped a wicked last 200 or so for a 4:01 or 4:02.
He also didn't have too far a drive to go run his indoor 3:59. I don't really much about where Burcham is from, but Webb was far from living out in the sticks in high school, without any competition. Heck, he had another top 10 nationally ranked 800 meter runner on his own team.
Jacob may be racing in Nashville on June 1 at the Music City Distance Carnival v TN's Brock Baker (who beat him 4:06 (59 last lap) to 4:08 at Eastern Relays)
Well, he stated in that flotrack (runnerspace?) segment that he didn't even like running and was just using it to get into a good college and make money to pursue his other hobbies. So maybe that apathy is catching up to him.
Can anyone link that video?
reap what you sow wrote:
Well, he stated in that flotrack (runnerspace?) segment that he didn't even like running and was just using it to get into a good college and make money to pursue his other hobbies. So maybe that apathy is catching up to him.
I saw that. But the guy is what - 17-18? To me, that's just immaturity speaking. When he gets to OU he'll figure out how important running is to him. At least he has figured out that to support his hobbies he needs to run fast, and if he doesn't run fast his abilities to pursue those hobbies will be diminished. People in the non-running world (the alternate universe to LRCers) would call that well-balanced.
Someone needs to brush up on their geography. Webb is from Reston, VA, a suburb of DC and only a few miles from the Maryland border. Burcham goes to school in Ona, WV, which according to Google maps is smack in the middle of nowhere. No comparing the two places.
he's right near the Ohio/KY borders and 9 hrs from NYC, where Webb ran 3:59i, whereas Reston, VA is just 4 hrs from NYC (if somehow you avoid traffic). Ona, WV looks to be surrounded by mtns and parks, excellent for running.
giffypop17 wrote:
That is completely untrue.
Webb had plenty of fast races, and a much hyped mile matchup with Ryan Hall (along with at least one of the Jeffersons and a handful of other fast guys)at Arcadia. Kind of the dream mile of it's day. If I remember right, it slowed on the third lap and Webb ripped a wicked last 200 or so for a 4:01 or 4:02.
Right, which is 8-9 seconds off what he did later. So if Burcham has only run 4:08 so far he is not in poor shape.
crazy raisin wrote:
Right, which is 8-9 seconds off what he did later. So if Burcham has only run 4:08 so far he is not in poor shape.
The difference is that Webb was still running times as fast as any high schooler had ever run, kicking butt and actually winning his races.
Burcham's run a mediocre time and lost his race. So there's really no correlation.
I don't know much about Burcham, other than he's not run up to expectations so far this season. I'd love to see him nail some fast times the end of this season, because I'd love to see 3-4 guys challenge for sub4 and I love to young athletes do well. But your logic is pretty bad, dude.
Where is Burcham going to college next year?