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Smoke Up - WADA adds a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 10:10PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
We always thought it was absurd that non PED drugs were tested for in the first place. The good news is WADA now will only be testing for a level of marijuana that will show up if you were actually using it in competition.

Apparently, and we didn't know this, marijuana has never prohibited out of competition - just in competition. A lot of people besides ourselves didn't know it as well. Anyone remember when Chris Lukezic famously was banned for refusing to take an out of competition drug test on 4/20:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3691363

Now, don't take the new rules too far and be an utter moron.

See below:


Inside the games said:

WADA told insidethegames, nonetheless, that there was no guarantee that an athlete who used marijuana shortly before a competition would not test positive, since it might remain in their system for a longer period.


More here: http://www.insidethegames.biz/1014228-wada-sets-higher-marijuana-threshold
Runner, Stoner, Gentleman
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:17PM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I support this.
Lyndon LaRouche
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:24PM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cocaine? Any change?
Danny Harris banned for life for testing positive for cocaine. A shame, and perhaps needlessly punitive on the part of IAAF.
recreational drugs should not matter. how can tripping balls the week before a meet convey an unfair advantage?
9d9d9
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:28PM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Now, losers can be even bigger losers without getting busted?
jonazitz
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:31PM - in reply to Lyndon LaRouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
do we wanna talk about El Pibe De Oro?

But with cocaine makes more sense, cocaine is a real drug, and has much more potential for addiction and health problems. It would go against the sport spirit.
Marijuana has never done any damage to people.
longrunsmokebreak
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:32PM - in reply to Runner, Stoner, Gentleman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This is great, I applaud WADA for this move. I love getting stoned before going on a trail run. As long as I'm not smoking right before a race it really shouldn't be an issue. When you get the right high, smoking before a race can be very beneficial though and I think it's good that they set a limit that can be used to test in competition.
jonazitz
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:34PM - in reply to longrunsmokebreak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
man, going for an easy run stoned is amazing. do you use a vape?
Runner, Stoner, Gentleman
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:34PM - in reply to Lyndon LaRouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Lyndon LaRouche wrote:
Cocaine? Any change?
Danny Harris banned for life for testing positive for cocaine. A shame, and perhaps needlessly punitive on the part of IAAF.
recreational drugs should not matter. how can tripping balls the week before a meet convey an unfair advantage?



You are seeing Marijuana the old way. The night time, party drug, an expression of reckless abandon. The new marijuana is a life enhancement substance, like your cup of coffee. Reducing stress and supporting well-being. I'm not making this up, by the way. I'm just calling what I see in an increasingly MJ tolerant society.
Lyndon LaRouche
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:36PM - in reply to jonazitz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

jonazitz wrote:
But with cocaine makes more sense, cocaine is a real drug, and has much more potential for addiction and health problems. It would go against the sport spirit.


By this logic, alcohol should be banned before any other recreational drug. It is far and away the most harmful.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm
Midnight Toker
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:38PM - in reply to Runner, Stoner, Gentleman Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Runner, Stoner, Gentleman wrote:

You are seeing Marijuana the old way. The night time, party drug, an expression of reckless abandon. The new marijuana is a life enhancement substance, like your cup of coffee. Reducing stress and supporting well-being. I'm not making this up, by the way. I'm just calling what I see in an increasingly MJ tolerant society.


As long as these drugs do not give an advantage, why should IAAF care? These are personal decisions.
Trollist
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:39PM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

LetsRun.com wrote:
Anyone remember when Chris Lukezic famously was banned for refusing to take an out of competition drug test on 4/20:



That was probably because he was retired and didn't want to face the tester to pee in a cup.
jonazitz
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:49PM - in reply to Lyndon LaRouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Lyndon LaRouche wrote:


jonazitz wrote:
But with cocaine makes more sense, cocaine is a real drug, and has much more potential for addiction and health problems. It would go against the sport spirit.


By this logic, alcohol should be banned before any other recreational drug. It is far and away the most harmful.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm


I don't know about that, I've always been a moderate drinker, so have been my friends/family (I'm from Italy). The relationship that people around me has with alcohol has always been very balanced.
I live in the USA now and I see that there is definitely more abuse, and the substance is seen under another light.
Anyway, the pull that I've felt the 2/3 times I tried cocaine is VERY different from alcohol, is like a slap to your brain. When I finished my first beer I've never wanted another one as much as I wanted my second line of coke.
jonazitz
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 8:56PM - in reply to jonazitz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
and honestly this table of harm doesn't make any sense.

Benzodiazepenes are less harmful than weed?

take a look at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDbPnAQ-c1o
rojo
co-founder
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 10:08PM - in reply to Lyndon LaRouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Lyndon LaRouche wrote:

Cocaine? Any change?
Danny Harris banned for life for testing positive for cocaine. A shame, and perhaps needlessly punitive on the part of IAAF.
recreational drugs should not matter. how can tripping balls the week before a meet convey an unfair advantage?


Cocaine is an upper. Isn't is a PED for events like pole vault and high jump? Maybe sprints as well.
xrunnsez
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/15/2013 10:10PM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
sounds like a good time to me, rojo
5 OK
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/16/2013 12:35AM - in reply to xrunnsez Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
without coca the mass harvests of corn that we know of today, would never have taken place, nor would have any large sprawling civilizations... aztecs, they were on the coca and they set the standard for modern times
Bad Wigins
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/16/2013 5:26AM - in reply to 5 OK Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If the WADA is against mass harvests of corn and sprawling civilizations, more power to them.

But the Aztecs were partial to caffeine, not cocaine. And the sprawling old world civilizations didn't have cocaine, coffee or nicotine, except possibly the Egyptians for a while.

They did have qat, which they still use, and is restricted in competition unlike caffeine, its western equivalent. Bit of a cultural bias.
The Real Slim Shady
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/16/2013 6:43AM - in reply to Lyndon LaRouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Lyndon LaRouche wrote:

By this logic, alcohol should be banned before any other recreational drug. It is far and away the most harmful.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm


I would like to actually read the study. It seems to be purely subjective. How does one determine "harm to others"
vs. "harm to users"?
Lyndon LaRouche
RE: Smoke Up - WADA a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/16/2013 6:58AM - in reply to The Real Slim Shady Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Lyndon LaRouche wrote:

By this logic, alcohol should be banned before any other recreational drug. It is far and away the most harmful.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm


The Real Slim Shady wrote:
I would like to actually read the study. It seems to be purely subjective. How does one determine "harm to others"
vs. "harm to users"?


This was a proper study
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961462-6/abstract

It was conducted by a scientist w/ a career in the field. The Lancet is a serious journal. This is not a politically motivated study.
Toronto
RE: Smoke Up - WADA adds a 10-fold increase in the threshold level for marijuana 5/16/2013 7:47AM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Testing for performance-enhancing drugs/methods has its own issues, but if you're going to test for recreational drugs you have to begin testing everyone in sport. You can't legitimately make "spirit of sport" claims if the only stakeholders you're policing are athletes.
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