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jwjwj
Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 4:06PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
3:38 doesn't seem that fast. Was that from a big kick or an early gap or what?
Anyone Notice
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 5:18PM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'd say for a conference championships 1500 it's not all that slow
Canova>God
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 5:57PM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think Lawi will be a great 10k guy one day.
Uhmmmm
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 5:59PM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ouch. Tough double.
sjjsjs
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 6:01PM - in reply to Uhmmmm Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Uhmmmm wrote:

Ouch. Tough double.



Apparently not. 3 or 4 second gap in the 1500m and like 30+ seconds in the 10k.
spade detector
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 6:08PM - in reply to sjjsjs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well done Lalang. Not quite as good as the Cheseret 10k/5k/1500 Pac 10 triple
superawesomness
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 7:22PM - in reply to spade detector Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

spade detector wrote:

Well done Lalang. Not quite as good as the Cheseret 10k/5k/1500 Pac 10 triple


Don't speak too soon. He's entered in the 5000m, it just hasn't been run yet or the results haven't been posted yet
spade detector
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 8:42PM - in reply to superawesomness Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Well he didn't end up running it. And when Cheserek won his triple, he had to beat a couple of fellows named Rupp and Araia
ppd
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 8:46PM - in reply to spade detector Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He probably realized how weak the pac12 competition is and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Seriously what happened to the pac12? What happened to the milers and distance guys? A guy shouldn't be able to pull of the 1500-10k double with ease (or at all).
spade detector
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 8:49PM - in reply to spade detector Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

spade detector wrote:

Well he didn't end up running it. And when Cheserek won his triple, he had to beat a couple of fellows named Rupp and Araia


Sorry, Cheseret - I've spent too much time reading that Dream Mile thread.
rojo
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RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 9:29PM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

jwjwj wrote:

3:38 doesn't seem that fast. Was that from a big kick or an early gap or what?


I think just the opposite.

I may start a separate thread on this just so this performance gets it's due as to me his 1500 run was INCREDIBLE.


3:38 with no rabbits in a conference meet after running the 10k already? Are you serious. It's INCREDIBLE. He won by 3+ seconds.

Did anyone see it?

Did he just hammer it from thefront - did no one go with thim?
a pac12 runner
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 9:34PM - in reply to ppd Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ppd wrote:

He probably realized how weak the pac12 competition is and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Seriously what happened to the pac12? What happened to the milers and distance guys? A guy shouldn't be able to pull of the 1500-10k double with ease (or at all).


I think the 8th best Pac 12 guy going into today had run 3:41, what are you talking about? He ran away from the gun. Also his 10k was solo in 75 degree weather before the sun had gone down. Not too bad
jwjwj
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 9:37PM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

rojo wrote:


jwjwj wrote:

3:38 doesn't seem that fast. Was that from a big kick or an early gap or what?


I think just the opposite.

I may start a separate thread on this just so this performance gets it's due as to me his 1500 run was INCREDIBLE.


3:38 with no rabbits in a conference meet after running the 10k already? Are you serious. It's INCREDIBLE. He won by 3+ seconds.

Did anyone see it?

Did he just hammer it from thefront - did no one go with thim?




No, you don't think the opposite because I never said what you're opposing.

The point wasn't about Lalang's time, victory, or circumstances. The point was that he won by several seconds. Can no one in the Pac12 run a 3:38 anymore? Ditto for the 10k.
crazy raisin
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 9:40PM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

jwjwj wrote:

The point wasn't about Lalang's time, victory, or circumstances. The point was that he won by several seconds.
Huh?? No it wasn't... you literally said "3:38 isn't that fast." When in fact it is quite fast.
Tiger Pawz
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 9:42PM - in reply to rojo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lawi Lalang just hammered the Pac-12 final from gun to tape. Lalang took out the first 400m in 57 seconds. He had about a 12 meter lead at 800m and came through there at 1:57. He extended his lead during the third lap to about 20 meters. After he had the race won, he cruised the last 50 meters of the race and let the field close the gap a little bit. A very impressive win in the 10,000 and 1500 for Lawi.
jwjwj
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 9:45PM - in reply to crazy raisin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

crazy raisin wrote:


jwjwj wrote:

The point wasn't about Lalang's time, victory, or circumstances. The point was that he won by several seconds.
Huh?? No it wasn't... you literally said "3:38 isn't that fast." When in fact it is quite fast.



I'm the person that said it so I know what the point was. And that's not what I literally said. There was an entire sentence after that one. Again, 3:38 is not that fast that Lalang should have won by so much.
Tiger Pawz
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 9:56PM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I saw the race. Lawi let up in the last 50 meters. He could have run 3:36 easily. He put the field away with his aggressive 1:57 first 800 meters. And then hammering the third lap. Lawi toyed with this group of 3:42 kids.
Well Actually
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/12/2013 11:21PM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

jwjwj wrote:


crazy raisin wrote:


jwjwj wrote:

The point wasn't about Lalang's time, victory, or circumstances. The point was that he won by several seconds.
Huh?? No it wasn't... you literally said "3:38 isn't that fast." When in fact it is quite fast.



I'm the person that said it so I know what the point was. And that's not what I literally said. There was an entire sentence after that one. Again, 3:38 is not that fast that Lalang should have won by so much.


Well, actually, no. That isn't how it works. You see, once you commit certain words to print you really are not in charge of what they mean.

For example, if I say that "hedgehogs are cuddly" and then protest when someone points out that they are prickly I cannot then legitimately protest that "I'm the person that said it so I know that the sentence meant, 'I like hot fudge sundaes'."

You're statement that "3:38 doesn't seem that fast" expressed something that others disagree with. What your own private thoughts were at the moment you were typing those words is not relevant.
26mi235
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/13/2013 9:33AM - in reply to jwjwj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think you do not fully understand championship racing, team competition, and learning how to use your resources. If you are a coach of a very good college runner (3:57 miler) would you have him chase Lalang so that he can use up his best race to get no more than second (and risk blowing up and getting nothing) when he can save himself a bit and get the same placing with higher probability? Then you are burnt up a bit with diminished chances for the next two rounds to what purpose? Johnson drew right conclusions about this race.
Original Gangsta
RE: Lawi Lalang wins Pac12 10k and 1500??? 5/13/2013 9:46AM - in reply to 26mi235 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

26mi235 wrote:

I think you do not fully understand championship racing, team competition, and learning how to use your resources. If you are a coach of a very good college runner (3:57 miler) would you have him chase Lalang so that he can use up his best race to get no more than second (and risk blowing up and getting nothing) when he can save himself a bit and get the same placing with higher probability? Then you are burnt up a bit with diminished chances for the next two rounds to what purpose? Johnson drew right conclusions about this race.


This is weak.
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