Travis Neuman - not running
Piper MacDonald - not running
And then last years graduates:
Megan Fristoe - not running at Oregon
Sarah Fristoe - not running at Oregon State
What is going on at this school after they fired Dave Clark?
Aldritt and Maton had nice races at Jesuit Twilight though.
Don't know Dave why don't you tell us what you think is going on
Ma and Pa McClatchie wrote:
Travis Neuman - not running
Piper MacDonald - not running
And then last years graduates:
Megan Fristoe - not running at Oregon
Sarah Fristoe - not running at Oregon State
What is going on at this school after they fired Dave Clark?
Aldritt and Maton had nice races at Jesuit Twilight though.
I really have no idea what's going on. This team has dominated Oregon's 5a division for years and the moment they let Dave clark go they fall apart. I generally don't care at all what happens in the smaller classifications but their fall has been dramatic so it hasn't gone unnoticed around the state.
I'll tell you that it has funked up Neuman's college options. A D1 coach that I talked to in the fall was equally baffled by the situation and decided to back off.
They're in pieces, bits and pieces.
DC5 wrote:
They're in pieces, bits and pieces.
I can't believe people had to listen to those boy bands back then.
Maybe they are pouring all their efforts into the sophomore Maton. 1:56, 3:54, 8:35. We haven't seen a underclassmen with those credentials since Rupp.
Last year, Geremia Lizier-Zmudzinski: 1:55.22 and 3:53.75
And a few years ago, there were two -
Elijah Greer: 1:51.49 and 3:57.76
Nathan Mathabane: 1:53.95 and 3:57.89
Either way, though, that would be an awful coaching job if they just said "Forget the rest of you guys, we're going to focus on training this other kid"
On Travis Neuman.
Ya , why would a division one school be interested in the fellow who had the fastest time at the Oregon X-country champ (any classification) and ran 3:57 back in mid april, and 8:36 on Friday at the twilight meet (probably taking off way to fast or running most of it on his own). I think he also won the Pear Blossom 5k in April as well.
Not sure why he isn't running for summit right now, but it doesn't seem if things have dropped too far off for going it alone.
Why did he get fired ?
Really? no division I? wrote:
On Travis Neuman.
Ya , why would a division one school be interested in the fellow who had the fastest time at the Oregon X-country champ (any classification) and ran 3:57 back in mid april, and 8:36 on Friday at the twilight meet (probably taking off way to fast or running most of it on his own). I think he also won the Pear Blossom 5k in April as well.
Not sure why he isn't running for summit right now, but it doesn't seem if things have dropped too far off for going it alone.
I didn't say that NO D-1 school would be interested only that the coach I know went in depth explaining that he was trying to understand why he was holding-out, during the first part of the XC season, then decided to run, only to sit out track except for one meet. He came to the conclusion that "this guy is going to be hard to work with".
And while 3:57 is pretty fair it still would only put him 3rd on the current Summit team.
i'm not defending the coaches or athletes I'm just fascinated by the amount of drama at this school that seems to have been running so smoothly for years. They've beaten themselves when no other team could.
Who cares? They choked hardcore at NXN and should just be forgotten. Lets focus on teams that have actually done something. Dominated 5A Oregon? Didn't realize beating Hermiston and Hood River was a big deal.
WA Power wrote:
Who cares? They choked hardcore at NXN and should just be forgotten. Lets focus on teams that have actually done something. Dominated 5A Oregon? Didn't realize beating Hermiston and Hood River was a big deal.
Do I sound like a Summit supporter? No. But you have to admit that this school has produced some pretty good results in recent years - point your Google to Kellie Schuler or three guys under 4:00/1500 this year or the four D1 girls on last year's state championship team.
They should move up to 6a like Central Catholic, Crater, and Jesuit but even while taking the easy road at state they have been competitive at the big invitationals.
Ah gotcha.
Keep in mind, the 3:57 was pretty early season and I think was faster than the other summit runners at that time.
Hard to say what the deal is, could be an issue with the new coach or training style, misplaced loyalty or flakiness. I would assume someone is working with him though as he is running in some of the oregon meets. (relays, twilight). Could be he would be fine in a program but knows the current one isn't a fit, could be a head case.
When I was running in high school years ago, we had a good runner and a really really bad distance track coach. He decided to just take a season off Track and not risk getting injured. A smart move as 3 folks did get injured. He did some strong road races etc. but ended up drifting away from running after that (I think missing the camaraderie of the team)
Hopefully it all works out as he does seem to be a talented runner.
Ma and Pa McClatchie wrote:
WA Power wrote:Who cares? They choked hardcore at NXN and should just be forgotten. Lets focus on teams that have actually done something. Dominated 5A Oregon? Didn't realize beating Hermiston and Hood River was a big deal.
Do I sound like a Summit supporter? No. But you have to admit that this school has produced some pretty good results in recent years - point your Google to Kellie Schuler or three guys under 4:00/1500 this year or the four D1 girls on last year's state championship team.
They should move up to 6a like Central Catholic, Crater, and Jesuit but even while taking the easy road at state they have been competitive at the big invitationals.
Exactly. Too bad that they have raced poorly both times they've qualified for NXN (boys last year, girls the year before). And also unfortunate Oregon has so many classifications that the best programs don't race many of the other top programs. But it would be hard to deny that Summit hasn't had quite a bit of success, and would have in any classification, over the past decade.
Now their defending state champ on the girls' side has a stress fracture.