10000m Elimination Race

great idea. they used to do this in f1 triathlons in australia in the 90s.

would be easy to do and cool to see on a track

So with 25 laps to go there are 25 runners left in the race.

24 laps to go - 24 runners left in race

23 laps to go - 23 runners left in race

...

2 laps to go - 2 runners left

1 lap to go - 1 runner left

He runs the last lap alone?

Nice concept, but you would need to start with 26.

Lite-Mayo wrote:

So with 25 laps to go there are 25 runners left in the race.

24 laps to go - 24 runners left in race

23 laps to go - 23 runners left in race

...

2 laps to go - 2 runners left

1 lap to go - 1 runner left

He runs the last lap alone?

Nice concept, but you would need to start with 26.

You are right. So we need six wild cards then.

Rupp wins lagat second.

Hall and abdi eliminated first soloman symmonds and rest of 800 guys go after first mile.

800 and 1500 guys all go out first, because they have no interest in trying to run 10k, and know they can't win. The marathon guys try to hammer the pace. at around 5k things really start to get interesting as far as sprints at the back of the pack. Of course Rupp wins. He's the fastest 10k runner and he can run the 1500 about as fast fast as anyone in the race.

My Wild Cards - 1 per each group:

Marathon: Ryan Vail

10K: Luke Puskedra

5K: Evan Jager (I know he's 3000)

1500/mile: German Fernandez

800: Doesn't Matter Guy

First 2 laps:

800 guys take it out hard for the sole purpose of eliminating 2 runners who may actually stand a chance in the end. 2 Marathoners can't keep up and are eliminated.

25. Vail

24. Ritz

Next 5 Laps:

The milers take over and push the pace. All 5 800 runners eliminated.

23. Doesn't matter

22. Jock

21. Robinson

20. Symmonds

19. Solomon

Next few laps the 5K/10K guys take over. Milers can still hang because of their leg speed. Remaining 3 marathoners go down.

18. Abdi

17. Meb

16. Hall

Next 5 laps the milers fall off pace.

15. Batty

14. Brown

13. German

12. Manzano

11. Centro

That leaves all 5k and 10k guys left. The 5k guys try to push the pace knowing they have more speed, but this late in the race it's more down to the endurance, so for the most part 5k suys are eliminated first. Here is how I see it finishing:

10. Vaughn

9. Puskedra

8. Jager

7. Torrence

6. Lomong

5. Lagat

4. Bumbie

3. Teg

2. Derrick

1. Rupp

This one is never in doubt, Rupp wins easy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, RITZ 24th When he made the olympic 10000m squad. he'ld be straight to the front to avoid the mess. I'ld have Vail to go early as well as Hall.

Speaking of which, I'ld have Ritz ahead of at least Puskedra, Torrence and Lomong.

Back in his prime, this would have been Webb's type of game

There should by some type of increasing bonus per lap for eliminations

I think Meb, Hall, Abdi, and Teg need to be careful not to get nipped in the first two laps. The 800m guys are going to eliminate two most likely.

I could see a 1500m guy getting knocked out early by sitting and kicking too late.

I don't see any of the wild cards lasting past lap 20.

Rupp should win with Lagat second and Ritz third. Maybe Chris Derrick hangs on for 4th.

The 1500m and 5000m guys are going to go through hell in the middle of this race.

BOOOOOOOORING. It needs more spice- like the medic factor in dodgeball.

Like if you get tossed, you have the option to grab a 10lb water bag made of extreme velcro. If you catch back up to the pack, you may slap the extreme velcro water bag on any runner by any means necessary.

Thus, for this rule, competitors would have to wear extreme fuzzy singlets, body tight for functionality.

Bonus points allow for runners to have immunity during certain stages of race. In stride, one could be handed a sort of body condom to throw over fluffy singlet to thwart unwanted velcro implantation. OR simply remove singlet for the lap, and retrieve it from official after immunity has expired.

The steeple pit could double as a sort of abortion clinic where if runners were carrying an unwanted bag of water, they could take a detour in the pit where officials would be waiting to assist with removal.

But as a penalty, said runner would don a scarlet vest for duration of race and be ineligible for future immunity of Christian burial.

this is stupid, everyone would go out way too hard to insure not being last. You'd see the first lap in under 55 and everyone would get burnt out in the first mile leading to a slow finish.

this race needs a rescue dog on a leash. a fit dog can pull a runner well under any race pace with ease. bonus runners get the dog for a lap or two.

this race needs more bananas, red turtle shells, stuff like that.

this race needs warp zones. first one to the warp zone gets to cut the curve.

this race needs... water cannons.

what else am i missing? lead press vehicle costumed as taliban in a toyota.

rsfszgfrgrfs wrote:

this is stupid, everyone would go out way too hard to insure not being last. You'd see the first lap in under 55 and everyone would get burnt out in the first mile leading to a slow finish.

How would it be stupid? It would be a test of fitness and who can survive the longest. You could show this on espn and actually keep someone's attention.

Make it a 200m track. Running is more of a contact sport though, so it could get quite tasty.

Doesn't matter who you think will go out first, because with everyone jockeying for position, someone is bound to go down in the first lap and they'll be done. It could be anyone.

Second. A better concept would be getting rid of the 800 guys in favor of more of the wild card picks. We all know the 800 runners would be non-factors.

That being said. Rupp wins. He has the best range (speed) over all distances and would be able to handle the surges that are sure to happen later in the race. I'll take Derrick for second because he is one tough mofo. Ritz is out early. That clown couldn't even hang onto the back of the olympic lead pack running 27:40 pace.

The problem that I see with this is that there is no incentive for the 800m runners to run fast at all. They know they can't win. Likewise the pure 1500 guys.

This needs prize money at every stage. You get $1000 for each lap you remain in the race (minus 1, I guess. First person out gets nothing). At the end of each lap, the person in first place gets $1000 x the number of people in the race.

Now you have a race.

why cant an 800m guy win? if every lap slows to a crawl with a short sprint to the line, the distance guys could get knocked off.

early on the distance guys will have to keep an honest pace going but need to stay out in front of the mad dashes. if they get caught in a situation where they cant change gears at the last second, they will be gone.

Rupp doesn't stand a chance. He sucks at running in crowds (i.e. he falls a lot) and this race is going to be a train wreck for the first 2 miles until the fields are thinned. Long term the 800m/1500m guys have no chance. But the are all good enough to beat the marathoners and some of the 10k guys over 5 or 6 laps. Maybe more if it gets tactical.

10k fan wrote:

800 and 1500 guys all go out first, because they have no interest in trying to run 10k, and know they can't win. The marathon guys try to hammer the pace. at around 5k things really start to get interesting as far as sprints at the back of the pack. Of course Rupp wins. He's the fastest 10k runner and he can run the 1500 about as fast fast as anyone in the race.

+1000 for the leader at the end of each lap

makes the 800/1500 runners think a bit more than they might otherwise

manbearpig wrote:

why cant an 800m guy win? if every lap slows to a crawl with a short sprint to the line, the distance guys could get knocked off.

early on the distance guys will have to keep an honest pace going but need to stay out in front of the mad dashes. if they get caught in a situation where they cant change gears at the last second, they will be gone.

But they do that in world class races anyway.