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Tourism Bill
Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 8:58AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You guys been duped!!! Global warming is a expertly crafted hoax and you fell for it!!! In 20 years Time magazine 2033 will again have: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" - and you will again be idiots and fall for it again!!! Wake up! Global warming a huge manufactured hoax!! The leading scientists already admitted they lied about the evidence because they evidence did not support their false claims!! Wake up now?!
Ugbubhubhub
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 9:05AM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1975 was before China and India woke up...

When I was a child (around the same time), we also said, imagine when all the Chinese will own a fridge? There will be no ozone layer left...
Logical Man
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 11:38AM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
OK, so you have identified yourself as almost unimaginably ignorant.

Congratulations!
NJ Possible
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 11:50AM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
To add to your lack of basic intelligence, that cover was fake, you yutz. The penguin graphic is from a few years ago and the type was sloppily added.
bmcpool strikes back
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 11:54AM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
so the fact that people thought it was getting colder and then it all of the sudden got hotter is an argument against global warming / climate change?
luv2run
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 11:55AM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The folks in NE digging out of snow and awaiting more probably are thinking the ice age arrived.
NJ Possible
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 12:24PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The article is real but the cover he referenced is a photoshop fake. it's called reading comprehension.
fair enough
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 2/17/2013 1:28PM - in reply to NJ Possible Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Pop science /= scientific consensus
Freddie B
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 6:49PM - in reply to fair enough Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://www.time.com/time/coversearch
Use Time's own site above to search...there are 4 covers: Feb 22, 1971, December 3, 1973, January 31, 1977 & December 24, 1979 ALL TALKING ABOUT GLOBAL FREEZE/COOLING. The one with the Penguin is fake and probably put out by someone who wants to make others look back....Additionally there is an article titled: "Another Ice Age?" dated June 24, 1974.... http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html
letsrunded
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 7:02PM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Its early April and its supposed to be 15 degrees warmer than it is here.
Ho Hum
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 7:07PM - in reply to Freddie B Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There was some debate in the '70s among climatologists as to whether an ice age was coming. Some thought it was, most did not. Time picked this up because it was a good story, not because it was good science. As more research was done, the true trend became apparent. This is readily available information that you should probably know already if you're going to counter a scientific consensus.

Just another case of global warming denialists twisting facts to suit their own needs. Here you go: http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

"However, these are media articles, not scientific studies. A survey of peer reviewed scientific papers from 1965 to 1979 show that few papers predicted global cooling (7 in total). Significantly more papers (42 in total) predicted global warming (Peterson 2008). The large majority of climate research in the 1970s predicted the Earth would warm as a consequence of CO2. Rather than 1970s scientists predicting cooling, the opposite is the case."
Velcro
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 7:28PM - in reply to Ho Hum Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Good article in the Economist this week about how Global Climate Warming Change has slowed and is on the verge of falling below the lower confidence interval of climate predictions. This despite CO2 emissions maintaining the same increasing pace. IPCC referenced several times.

"The five year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade," (James Hansen, NASA).
Gramatologist
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 8:15PM - in reply to Velcro Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Velcro wrote:

Good article in the Economist this week about how Global Climate Warming Change has slowed and is on the verge of falling below the lower confidence interval of climate predictions. This despite CO2 emissions maintaining the same increasing pace. IPCC referenced several times.

"The five year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade," (James Hansen, NASA).


Heathen! May your soul be damned by the Gods of global warming.
Freddie B
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 9:06PM - in reply to Ho Hum Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"It is not clear why climate change has “plateaued” (see article). It could be because of greater natural variability in the climate, because clouds dampen warming or because of some other little-understood mechanism in the almost infinitely complex climate system. But whatever the reason, some of the really ghastly scenarios—where the planet heated up by 4°C or more this century—are coming to look mercifully unlikely."

HO-HUM INDEED! They have no idea! What's next?

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21574490-climate-change-may-be-happening-more-slowly-scientists-thought-world-still-needs
The very next sentence:
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 9:29PM - in reply to Freddie B Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Freddie B wrote:

"It is not clear why climate change has “plateaued” (see article). It could be because of greater natural variability in the climate, because clouds dampen warming or because of some other little-understood mechanism in the almost infinitely complex climate system. But whatever the reason, some of the really ghastly scenarios—where the planet heated up by 4°C or more this century—are coming to look mercifully unlikely."

HO-HUM INDEED! They have no idea! What's next?

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21574490-climate-change-may-be-happening-more-slowly-scientists-thought-world-still-needs


"Does that mean the world no longer has to worry? No, for two reasons."
derps
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 10:18PM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change deniers and religious/bible bashing/lack of university qualifications/gun-toting violence beliefs/republican fanatic etc.

Basically anything that denotes lower end of the Bell curve!!
The Whole Reasoning behind is:
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/4/2013 10:19PM - in reply to The very next sentence: Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Weather cannot be accurately predicted for next week, what makes you think that it can be predicted LONG TERM? William M. Gray,"a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanesand one of the world's leading experts on tropical storms" ..."is skeptical of current theories of human-induced global warming, which he says is supported by scientists afraid of losing grant funding and promoted by government leaders and environmentalists seeking world government. He believes that humans are not responsible for the warming of the earth and has stated that "We're brainwashing our children." He asked, "How can we trust climate forecasts 50 and 100 years into the future (that can’t be verified in our lifetime) when they are not able to make shorter seasonal or yearly forecasts that could be verified?"

Gray said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error. He cites statistics showing that there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperature, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.
Boris
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/5/2013 4:33AM - in reply to Tourism Bill Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I read this recently:

(CNSNews.com) - A federal advisory committee appointed by the Obama administration to produce a report on climate change says that if Earth’s climate were still “primarily controlled by natural factors”—rather than by man-made global warming—then the next ice age would occur within the next 1,500 years.
But now, because of humans, the committee says, the next ice age has been "delayed indefinitely."
uh....
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/5/2013 7:28AM - in reply to The Whole Reasoning behind is: Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

The Whole Reasoning behind is: wrote:

The Weather cannot be accurately predicted for next week, what makes you think that it can be predicted LONG TERM? William M. Gray,"a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanesand one of the world's leading experts on tropical storms" ..."is skeptical of current theories of human-induced global warming, which he says is supported by scientists afraid of losing grant funding and promoted by government leaders and environmentalists seeking world government. He believes that humans are not responsible for the warming of the earth and has stated that "We're brainwashing our children." He asked, "How can we trust climate forecasts 50 and 100 years into the future (that can’t be verified in our lifetime) when they are not able to make shorter seasonal or yearly forecasts that could be verified?"

Gray said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error. He cites statistics showing that there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperature, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.


You're talking about climate and weather like they are the same thing, which they are not. I have heard the hurricane stuff before, but it in no way disproves global warming or climate change, it just is data about hurricane frequency.

To the OP, what's your point? Scientific understanding has obviously advanced in the last 35 years, so clearly our views on climate would change as well. People used to believe that the earth was the center of the universe, but do you use that fact to refute the idea that the earth rotates around the sun?
down by the river
RE: Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE" 4/5/2013 9:32AM - in reply to The Whole Reasoning behind is: Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

The Whole Reasoning behind is: wrote:

The Weather cannot be accurately predicted for next week, what makes you think that it can be predicted LONG TERM? William M. Gray,"a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanesand one of the world's leading experts on tropical storms" ..."is skeptical of current theories of human-induced global warming, which he says is supported by scientists afraid of losing grant funding and promoted by government leaders and environmentalists seeking world government. He believes that humans are not responsible for the warming of the earth and has stated that "We're brainwashing our children." He asked, "How can we trust climate forecasts 50 and 100 years into the future (that can’t be verified in our lifetime) when they are not able to make shorter seasonal or yearly forecasts that could be verified?"

Gray said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error. He cites statistics showing that there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperature, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.


Of course it is much easier to predict long term trends (climate) than the events on a single day (weather). Would you be willing to bet that you can predict the average temperature next week more accurately than I can predict the average temperature of next year?
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