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apparently a lot of ultra folks are bitter about josh coxs 50k record. i was talking to some today and they told me that cox never ran an official 50k. he apparently ran a marathon and then they mapped out the additional distance so they could say he has the record for the 50k. anyone hear this gripe before. |
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Those people will never be able to understand the depth of Josh Cox. |
| wearing a large faced watch |
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Who is Josh Cox and why should I know about course extentions? Thanks |
| Mammoth TC |
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Josh is a self promoter that has never achieved a thing in the elite circles of the sport. He thinks he is well connected but is laughed at by almost everyone. The 50k was 8k added on a Rock N Roll event. He was the only finisher. |
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Are there enough ultra folks to refer to "a lot" of them? |
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Did he run the official distance on a measured course or not? If so, I don't see the problem. Someone else needs to go out and beat his time and there will be no more controversy. |
| mallaroy |
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if he wants the 50k record...why not go out and enter a 50k race? why does rock n roll cater to this guy? |
| crazy raisin |
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Did he run the official distance on a measured course or not? If so, I don't see the problem. Someone else needs to go out and beat his time and there will be no more controversy.[/quote]Yes. He ran through the marathon finish line, to a track, and a bunch of laps around a track. I can see why it's much easier to set the record this way as you get the pacing and crowd support of a marathon (and then much more crowd support on the track as lots of people went to watch) but that's not an unfair advantage so it shouldn't be controversial. |
| coachTi |
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The Rock n Roll Arizona Marathon allowed him to win their marathon and then continue for a 30k. I disagree with this. How can they award him the marathon win, pay him money, and then say that he completed another race and get a record. That sounds like double dipping to me. I do not disagree that this guy can have the 50k record - but it should have been in a actual 50k race. The article is below. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2011-01-16-3221686878_x.htm |
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"secret" races are not credible. If nobody else was allowed entry into the 50K where he set the record, that is just flat out absurd. As others have stated, if you want to get a record, you should be competing in an official event where other athletes are allowed to compete against you. |
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I agree. It is not fair for him to finish a marathon and then continue on. The race was 26.2 and he crossed the line as the winner. That is the end! If he wants to 50k record - then he needs to enter a 50k and start and finish with an official field. shame on the USATF for allowing this record to stand. |
| blackbeltmarathoner |
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its still the 50k fu**in distance!? lets see someone else do it if its so much easier to do 5:22 a mile 31 times |
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never achieved anything, except oh... making the Olympics |
| coachTi |
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no one said it was easy to run a 5:32 mile 31 miles. we are questioning the idea of letting the marathon winter of a marathon race..keep running to get records. is it fair to let a 10k winner of a race...continue on and shoot for the 12k record. or how about.....the winner of a 5k shoot for the 6k record. usatf needs to put their foot down and say that it needs to happen during an official sanctioned usatf event. if rock and roll wants to have a 50k..that is fine. but the 50k participants should not be eligible for a marathon award. can you win the 5k race if you sign up for a 10k in a simultaneous 5k/10k road race. no! |
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never achieved anything, except oh... making the Olympics[/quote] Wait, what? |
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Why do so many use "self promoter" as an insult? I see a lot of guys getting dropped by their sponsors and not being able to support their running because they can't be bothered to promote themselves. |
| Mammoth TC |
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He did not win the marathon before continuing on, He was not even the first American across the finish line. He was just the only one to continue on. and he was never close to being an Olympian |
| coachTi |
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article to the article it said cox won the marathon and continued on. total bs |
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That's completely fair. I don't understand what's wrong with that. Geb broke the 20k world record in the middle of a one-hour race. Fine with me. |
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This thread is everything that's wrong with letsrun. Elite runners can barely get sponsored. Cox self promotes, gets sponsored and subsequently starts a career as a announcer for marathons. Josh Cox is the best sponsored 2:13 marathon runner. OTHER RUNNERS SHOULD TAKE NOTE OF WHAT HE DID AND DO IT. Josh Cox sets up a 50k at a marathon, wins the marathon and then goes to break the American record. This brings the event extra publicity which the staff loves. Seriously, this thread sucks, the people on this thread suck and have an axe to grind. Josh Cox is the poster boy for making a GOOD living as an elite runner and not scrapping by begging for a sponsor. |