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1:44 800=4:14 mile
What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 2:20PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I saw the results at the Husky Classic that happened yesterday. I have to admit I was a little suprised with Jock's result in the mile: 4:14 for 60th place (not counting the invite divison). Wouldn't you think 2:02 halfs would feel like a jog for him much less 2:07s?
iWitness
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 2:30PM - in reply to 1:44 800=4:14 mile Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I watched the race. He was with the leaders then disappeared. I guess he wasn't as fit as he thought he was and then gave up.
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RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 3:11PM - in reply to iWitness Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
probably more a 400/800 type, but still i would expect a 4:05 at worst
HC #1
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 3:12PM - in reply to 1:44 800=4:14 mile Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Winter is the "hiatus" in So Cal. Jock is having it easy now. T&F doesn't start for another 5 weeks.
crazy person
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 5:07PM - in reply to HC #1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I wouldn't be surprised if that is a mile PB for Charles Jock. The guy does not do a lot of overdistance.
The Waterboy
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 5:36PM - in reply to crazy person Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He ran a 3:53 1500m I think last year and then won NCAA's in the 800m. 3:53 is approximately on par with a 4:14 mile especially indoor. The man only runs 30 miles per week so he's definitely more suited for shorter stuff; he's made jokes to Cam Levins on twitter about how Cam does more mileage in one day than Jock does in a week
SomeCoach
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 6:05PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm waiting for Jock to realize that opening every 800m in 49 mid is a recipe for disaster.
EarlJohnnyJoaquimJohnnyDavid
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 6:16PM - in reply to SomeCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You got that right...

Or do you?
SomeCoach
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 6:20PM - in reply to EarlJohnnyJoaquimJohnnyDavid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
When Rudisha opens up in 49 point that's called slightly up-tempo ... when Jock does it it's called suicide. And poor Johnny Gray, as much as I respect his flat out excellence and longevity, would have found more success if he had just laid off the accelerator a tad, imho.
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RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 6:25PM - in reply to SomeCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Jock ran 3:49 last year at Ben Brown last year. so 4:06ish in the mile.
chuckwalla
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/10/2013 6:34PM - in reply to 1:44 800=4:14 mile Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think that time means much at all. What is Rudisha's 1500 pb? Does he even have one?

Remember Andrews ran 4:11 earlier this year and then came back to set an AR not long after.
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RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 7:45AM - in reply to crazy person Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

crazy person wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if that is a mile PB for Charles Jock. The guy does not do a lot of overdistance.


How much are we talking? Seriously, 30 mpw?
plasta
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 8:10AM - in reply to rupp-certified saladbar Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think there is a Flotrack video where his coach talks about the training he does. Had a quick look there and couldn't find it though.

Maybe I'm thinking about someone else completely.
But IIRC the coach basically says he's a genetic freak and runs fast on crazy low mileage.
Come on mayne
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 9:59AM - in reply to chuckwalla Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

chuckwalla wrote:

I don't think that time means much at all. What is Rudisha's 1500 pb? Does he even have one?

Remember Andrews ran 4:11 earlier this year and then came back to set an AR not long after.


Just missed the 1000 AR, but yeah, a bad mile isn't the end of the world for 800 guys.
Dennis Reynolds
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 10:19AM - in reply to SomeCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

SomeCoach wrote:

I'm waiting for Jock to realize that opening every 800m in 49 mid is a recipe for disaster.


Yeah, sure doesn't work out for that Rudisha guy.
savilerow
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 10:45AM - in reply to Dennis Reynolds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
maybe Alan Webb should try it too then. herpderp
Canova>God
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 10:46AM - in reply to Dennis Reynolds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think going out with Rudisha is the smartest race tactic. He is a 1:40 guy not a 1:44 guy.
JimmyNeutron
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 5:11PM - in reply to 1:44 800=4:14 mile Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just think if Jock trained hard. He could challenge Rudisha.
i hate you
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 5:22PM - in reply to HC #1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

HC #1 wrote:

Winter is the "hiatus" in So Cal. Jock is having it easy now. T&F doesn't start for another 5 weeks.



What about Palestine or Navy SEALs or Tom Cruise?
San Diego Bay
RE: What happened to Charles Jock? 2/11/2013 6:41PM - in reply to 1:44 800=4:14 mile Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Charles has never even come close to doing the type of training required to run a fast mile. It should have been ill-advised for him to jump into an indoor mile likw that. For winter time overdistance work he should stick to 5k road races to get some strength work in.
Jock is a stud, though. He will be back.
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