Any reviews of the school and town ?
I'm no drinker and I hear this is a dry campus?
Not interested in the running program just academics.
Does this school prepare you for higher education ?
Good reputation ?
Any reviews of the school and town ?
I'm no drinker and I hear this is a dry campus?
Not interested in the running program just academics.
Does this school prepare you for higher education ?
Good reputation ?
Nice area, small school
It can be if you make it, drinking happens on all college campuses
Running program building and will be a powerhouse soon, very soon. Academics are great, difficult school to get into.
Cost a ton though, if you can afford it. Do it.
I am at Clemson, but wanted to add that Furman is the most beautiful campus I have ever been on. They take care of the whole campus like a championship golf course.
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I am at Clemson, but wanted to add that Furman is the most beautiful campus I have ever been on. They take care of the whole campus like a championship golf course.
i've never been to Furman but I heard from the above poster the campus is beautiful.
No doubt the school is beautiful, but it isn't that hard to get into at all.
83% of applicants are accepted - Meh:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/furman-university-3434
It's not a bad school, but it's not one of the best ones either. If you are a straight A student with high test scores, then this would not be for you. You get A's and B's and have an ACT of ~26, then this might be the school for you.
Flagpole wrote:
No doubt the school is beautiful, but it isn't that hard to get into at all.
83% of applicants are accepted - Meh:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/furman-university-3434It's not a bad school, but it's not one of the best ones either. If you are a straight A student with high test scores, then this would not be for you. You get A's and B's and have an ACT of ~26, then this might be the school for you.
You might want to rethink this. Newsweek ranked Furman as the second most rigorous school in the nation.
Nah. I'll stand by what I said:1) It's not that hard to get into - 83% of applicants. Harder to get into Ohio State than Furman.2) I said it wasn't a bad school, but also that it's not one of the best either. Even if Newsweek is correct that it is the second most rigorous school, that doesn't make it a great school...just means someone there decided the students needed to do a lot of work.On no reputable list is Furman University considered one of the best colleges in the country.
Sloetry in Motion wrote:
Flagpole wrote:No doubt the school is beautiful, but it isn't that hard to get into at all.
83% of applicants are accepted - Meh:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/furman-university-3434It's not a bad school, but it's not one of the best ones either. If you are a straight A student with high test scores, then this would not be for you. You get A's and B's and have an ACT of ~26, then this might be the school for you.
You might want to rethink this. Newsweek ranked Furman as the second most rigorous school in the nation.
Flagpole, surely you must know that percentage of applicants tells you very little about the whole picture of a University. Yes, Ohio State accepts a lower percentage. But then, just about every kid in Ohio applies. There are only so many spots. Furman is private and expensive. This prevents most people from even applying in the first place. Therefore, the applicant pool is closer in size to the size of the incoming class. This is the reality of the vast majority private liberal arts colleges in the country.
Take it from someone who works in higher education - ME - Furman is an excellent school. Their medical school acceptance rate is on par with Emory and Wake Forest. Pretty stout company to keep.
All of what you say being true, Furman still is not one of the best undergraduate schools in the country.I've already said it's not a bad school (said that in my very first post), but it's not all that hard to get into...if you've got a way to pay for it, then you're one of the 83% of the applicants get accepted. US News and World Reports puts them at #49 of National Liberal Arts Colleges. Some that are ahead of Furman on that list include: Hamilton College, Colby College, Bates College, Macalester College, University of Richmond, Sewanee -- University of the South, Lafayette College, Pitzer College, and Gettysburg College.Perhaps they have a program or two that shines above those colleges I mentioned, but generally speaking, it ain't great. Just giving him the facts, brother. I've been asking for opinions about colleges regarding where my daughter might go, and I want people to give real, honest answers. He can take my opinion or leave it.In any case, I'm SURE he can get a great education there if he wants.Furman is a good university, but it's not a top school.
The Stache wrote:
Flagpole, surely you must know that percentage of applicants tells you very little about the whole picture of a University. Yes, Ohio State accepts a lower percentage. But then, just about every kid in Ohio applies. There are only so many spots. Furman is private and expensive. This prevents most people from even applying in the first place. Therefore, the applicant pool is closer in size to the size of the incoming class. This is the reality of the vast majority private liberal arts colleges in the country.
Take it from someone who works in higher education - ME - Furman is an excellent school. Their medical school acceptance rate is on par with Emory and Wake Forest. Pretty stout company to keep.
OK, then be honest. It's not "meh" as you wrote. It is not. Most of the other higher ranked private liberal arts colleges in the South also have higher acceptance rates. This stems from a number of factors, which include the large state universities that are cheap, and the fact that these schools do not quite have the history of Williams, Amherst, Wesleyan, etc.
No, Furman is not Williams or Amherst, but it is not "meh" either. It is a very very good school.
Let's save "meh" for the likes of Berry College, Presbyterian College, and Erskine College.
In the context of ALL colleges, I'll give you that it's not "meh". If brought into a discussion of the best colleges though (as it was), I'll stick with "meh".
The Stache wrote:
OK, then be honest. It's not "meh" as you wrote. It is not. Most of the other higher ranked private liberal arts colleges in the South also have higher acceptance rates. This stems from a number of factors, which include the large state universities that are cheap, and the fact that these schools do not quite have the history of Williams, Amherst, Wesleyan, etc.
No, Furman is not Williams or Amherst, but it is not "meh" either. It is a very very good school.
Let's save "meh" for the likes of Berry College, Presbyterian College, and Erskine College.
Flagpole wrote:
If brought into a discussion of the best colleges though (as it was), I'll stick with "meh".
Unless a post has been deleted, I don't believe anybody said it was one of the best colleges.
I know nothing about Furman, but the US News and World Report Rankings are suspect. All ranking systems are different, some putting more emphasis on selectivity, some on composition of the faculty, some on student feedback about their experience, and others about the best risk/reward ratio in terms of financial outcomes to debt post-college.
By way of example, UC Santa Barbara probably doesn't make the top 20 or 30 on that list and is generally not considered to be on par with a UCLA or Berkeley, but they have the College of Creative Studies, which is essentially like a graduate program wrapped into an undergraduate program, has an international flavor, gets students involved in academic research from the jump, and has many nobel laureates, both faculty and former students.
That particular program is considered to be just as good as any in the country if a student can get admitted, and many of the undergrads go on to graduate school at the highest-ranking institutions. There's far more to a school then what any particular ranking system says about it, and, if it is true that partying is de-emphasized at Furman, then it probably is a good school with a focus on academics.
Well, a few posts have been deleted, and one remains that mentions it's the second most "rigorous".
Original Gangsta wrote:
Flagpole wrote:If brought into a discussion of the best colleges though (as it was), I'll stick with "meh".
Unless a post has been deleted, I don't believe anybody said it was one of the best colleges.
Valid points. I made a similar observation saying that perhaps Furman has a program or two that shines. Furman is one of these, but just because a university frowns on drinking doesn't mean they emphasize academics...there are some Bible Colleges and other low-level Christian colleges that don't allow drinking that aren't known for academics.As I am often misunderstood, let me be crystal clear about some things.1) I'm not slamming this guy for possibly attending Furman. Had he said he was already there and that it was the best school on the planet, I would have kept my mouth shut. He's asking for OPINIONS about the school, and I'm currently in a heightened state about the quality of colleges since I have a teenage daughter beginning the search, and I had already read some stuff about Furman and formed an opinion. If the guy has other options, he should at least hear some not-so-glowing opinions about Furman.2) I'm definitely not a high and mighty snob when it comes to colleges. My undergraduate degree is from Ohio Wesleyan (which is good for journalism which is why I went there, and it was a better school when I went there than it is now, and it's still a GOOD school, but it's no Ivy League equivalent); and then I went to graduate school at San Jose State because it was cheap and convenient.3) As I said earlier, I believe you can get a good education just about anywhere if you apply yourself. He can do that at Furman.
RunningAntelope wrote:
I know nothing about Furman, but the US News and World Report Rankings are suspect. All ranking systems are different, some putting more emphasis on selectivity, some on composition of the faculty, some on student feedback about their experience, and others about the best risk/reward ratio in terms of financial outcomes to debt post-college.
By way of example, UC Santa Barbara probably doesn't make the top 20 or 30 on that list and is generally not considered to be on par with a UCLA or Berkeley, but they have the College of Creative Studies, which is essentially like a graduate program wrapped into an undergraduate program, has an international flavor, gets students involved in academic research from the jump, and has many nobel laureates, both faculty and former students.
That particular program is considered to be just as good as any in the country if a student can get admitted, and many of the undergrads go on to graduate school at the highest-ranking institutions. There's far more to a school then what any particular ranking system says about it, and, if it is true that partying is de-emphasized at Furman, then it probably is a good school with a focus on academics.
Seriously, I have run around the Furman campus several times as I work in Greenville and while nice, its not all that.
But as usual you have taken over someones elses thread and made it about you. You are a jerk and a troll of the worst kind. If ever someone deserved to be banned for life from LetsRun it is you. Stache showed how wrong you were,yet, in your typical low life ohio make this all about me way you carry on as if you are some expert. You are a loser and dirty rotten troll. There is a reason why seperate threads start about you and so many join in the hate. The vibe you give is why you receive the hate you so richly deserve.
Well, none of what you say is true, of course.You are biased FOR Furman because you are considering going there, so you believe that Stache's opinion is factual.I gave you some concrete things:1) 83% of applicants are accepted to Furman.2) US News and World Report considers the following schools to be better than Furman (have you even heard of them all?): Hamilton College, Colby College, Bates College, Macalester College, University of Richmond, Sewanee -- University of the South, Lafayette College, Pitzer College, and Gettysburg College.3) I also said it was a "good" school, just not a top school.The first two things are true facts. The third thing is an opinion that just about anyone would agree with. Top schools are Ivy League schools, Stanford, Caltech, even down to the level of Rice University. People don't put Furman in that category. No one even says, "You know a great school that just flies under the radar for some reason? Furman!"Sorry, brother, but you can go with the feelings about the school from others, or you can use the stats I provided to help you determine how good it is. I was just trying to be helpful.Go to Furman if you want. I have no investment either way. I was just trying to give you an accurate vision of that school. You should know that when you ask for opinions about things, you might get one you didn't want.
Serious Sam the Study Nerd wrote:
But as usual you have taken over someones elses thread and made it about you. You are a jerk and a troll of the worst kind. If ever someone deserved to be banned for life from LetsRun it is you. Stache showed how wrong you were,yet, in your typical low life ohio make this all about me way you carry on as if you are some expert. You are a loser and dirty rotten troll. There is a reason why seperate threads start about you and so many join in the hate. The vibe you give is why you receive the hate you so richly deserve.
Flagpoles problem is his obsession with self. Humility is not a trait that he ever learned. That combo equals people dislike him. It is too late in the game for him to learn.
Flagpole wrote:
US News and World Report considers the following schools to be better than Furman (have you even heard of them all?):
University of Richmond, Sewanee -- University of the South
Flagpole, I am surprised you added those two in there. Richmond and Sewannee are both extremely good school with great reputations.
I agree with you about Furman, but don't rag on the Spiders and Tigers.
I went to UVA, but some of my friends (who easily could have gone Ivy) went to these two schools and have done very well for themselves. Both are fine academic institutions.