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Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 1/31/2013 2:44PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've had minor-medium knee pain in my right knee for the last 5 weeks. I'm fairly certain it occurred because I ramped up my mileage too aggressively. I stopped running and cross trained a week after it happened. But every time I swam or biked, it would hurt and feel right afterwards. I haven't done any workouts or cross training or running for the past 4 weeks. I just want to run again at this point. My season is already ruined, I just want to get the mileage back up again.

The pain is very minimal now. When I wake up I feel nothing. As the day progresses I notice it starts aching when I must bend going up and down stairs. Also sitting in a desk then extending my leg will make me feel it. It really doesn't hurt much anymore which makes me think its somewhat healed. But it's still there and I'm angry because I know if I run again I will aggravate it.

When I am getting ready for bed I again feel virtually nothing. It's just from use during the day that I notice something is still wrong. Sometimes it feels right below the kneecap, sometimes right above. I've been doing straight leg raises and icing. Seems like it hasn't helped. I thought a month off would help it heal. Guess not which sucks...

It's not bad pain at all, just that I can't run and I can feel something wrong is ruining my quality of life. Do I go to my general doctor or should I go straight to a specialist? I don't want any bs, I just want to find the exact problem and the fix. It's hard to describe the problem currently so I'm worried ill need an MRI which is expensive. Idk how serious this is because it's lingered so long but it's never been severe pain, and it is not as bad as it was a few weeks ago.

Please help an injured runner. I just want to train again
really??????
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 1/31/2013 9:30PM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Patellar tendinitis/ osis. Www.grastontechnique.com

Do eccentric wall squats with a physioball behind you, not letting the knees come past the ankles on the way down. 10 seconds down, 3 seconds up. 15-25 reps 2x per day, ice each time afterwards. Get some graston done. Provider search on the web link above. Should take no more than 6 visits in most cases.
Harry Pi
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 1/31/2013 9:47PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

amputate mwhaha wrote:
cut ur legs off loser

You must be 13 years old, right?
amputate mwhaha
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/1/2013 12:06AM - in reply to Harry Pi Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
NO 14!
lol lol lol lol
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/1/2013 1:10AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Bad knee wrote:

I've had minor-medium knee pain in my right knee for the last 5 weeks. I'm fairly certain it occurred because I ramped up my mileage too aggressively. I stopped running and cross trained a week after it happened. But every time I swam or biked, it would hurt and feel right afterwards. I haven't done any workouts or cross training or running for the past 4 weeks. I just want to run again at this point. My season is already ruined, I just want to get the mileage back up again.

The pain is very minimal now. When I wake up I feel nothing. As the day progresses I notice it starts aching when I must bend going up and down stairs. Also sitting in a desk then extending my leg will make me feel it. It really doesn't hurt much anymore which makes me think its somewhat healed. But it's still there and I'm angry because I know if I run again I will aggravate it.

When I am getting ready for bed I again feel virtually nothing. It's just from use during the day that I notice something is still wrong. Sometimes it feels right below the kneecap, sometimes right above. I've been doing straight leg raises and icing. Seems like it hasn't helped. I thought a month off would help it heal. Guess not which sucks...

It's not bad pain at all, just that I can't run and I can feel something wrong is ruining my quality of life. Do I go to my general doctor or should I go straight to a specialist? I don't want any bs, I just want to find the exact problem and the fix. It's hard to describe the problem currently so I'm worried ill need an MRI which is expensive. Idk how serious this is because it's lingered so long but it's never been severe pain, and it is not as bad as it was a few weeks ago.

Please help an injured runner. I just want to train again


Find an orthopedic surgeon in your area who specializes in knees and who treats many young, healthy athletes. You might find out, for example, who treats injured pro athletes in your area.

Make an appointment.

Ask for an MRI.

Until then, find another activity that does not aggravate the injury.
SameBoat
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/1/2013 9:09AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm in the same boat. I mean your are EXACTLY where I am at this point. I was hurting so bad I had to limp, I couldn't run at all.

Now I have this lingering pain that keeps coming up when I try to run. Now I'm gun shy, Im worried that when the pain comes up it's going to progress and Ill be back to square one.

Have you tried going to a PT that does dry needling?
asdf dfadsf dfs
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/1/2013 11:28AM - in reply to lol lol lol lol Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Go to see an orthopedist to get it diagnosed. From what you describe, it is difficult to say whether your knee problem is the result of patellar tendonitis, patellofemoral pain syndrome, or something in the joint itself. An orthopedist should be able to differentiate between these three options. An MRI would only be needed if the doctor suspects a problem in the joint (like a meniscus tear). All three of these injuries usually require more than just rest to rehabilitate, but the treatments are not the same. You should get it diagnosed to clear up the air.
Bad knee
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/1/2013 11:42AM - in reply to asdf dfadsf dfs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
^thanks, i will go find an orthopedist.

should i go to my general doctor and have him recommend someone, or should i just search directly for an orthopedist in the area that works with runners? is this usually something out of pocket or covered by insurance. im 20 and not sure what our insurance is like right now, i have to ask my parents. i dont want to burden them. is it likely after being diagnosed, treatment will be expensive?

thanks for all the help so far
Guppy
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/1/2013 11:45AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If the pain started simply after increasing mileage, not after an acute incident like a car wreck or skiing accident, it's likely just an inflammation issue and not anything requiring an MRI. You probably just need to see a PT and get a diagnoses and do a few stretches and exercises. I've had knee issues that wouldn't go away no matter how much I rested or iced them. Both turned out to be easy fixes that only required stretching out my IT bands and quads. I stretch normally, but these problems just required a bit more extensive stretching. After a few weeks both went away completely.

Where exactly is the pain? Be as descriptive as possible. My advice to you would be to go see a good PT that is familiar with athletes. An experience PT who is also a runner would be ideal.

Also, don't get too down about your season. Indoor might be out, but you still have plenty of time to get in shape for outdoor.
Bad knee
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/1/2013 3:05PM - in reply to Guppy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thanks Guppy. It's really hard to pinpoint the pain now. I wouldn't even call it pain. Just irritation and ache when I feel it. More annoyance at the fact that I can't run then anything.

Initially just the kneecap itself would hurt when walking sometimes. If I bent my leg a bit more when walking rather than keeping straight I'd feel it. This was back in early January so I can't quite remember where the pain was. But it was frontal, not on the side of my IT band. I did have ITBS last winter but that was taken care of through rolling and time off.

I'm fairly certain the mileage increase is what did this. Maybe that combined with the change in cold weather if that makes sense. I went from 48 to 62 miles in singles in a week. I guess its not that drastic if you think about it, but I think it was too much to go to 60 in a week singles.I usually do 65 in doubles or 50 in singles so that was new territory. I was feeling great though and got too excited to build up my mileage.

I actually haven't felt the knee at all today so far because I've just been lounging around in my house and not doing much walking. I am going to go for a walk later today and will report back if I feel it, and if so where the pain is. I've still been foam rolling my IT band and doing straight leg raises lying down.

I am going to look for a PT right now on yelp and google. Can I just pay out of pocket to get this done? I rather do it on my own money and not have to involve my parents. Will the PT try to sucker me in for returning visits or will I probably find a good guy who will just give me exercises and I'll be on my way? I've never done PT before.

I do hope I can run fast in outdoors. I was looking forward to cranking out a 15:00 5k but thats unlikely now. I'm just hoping to get back on my feet so I can run somewhat fast come May...
Life or death
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/2/2013 8:35AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
OP get your behind in the ER now! This is no laughing matter
whateverman
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/2/2013 10:05AM - in reply to lol lol lol lol Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes, go to a surgeon for something that probably isn't surgical. Ask for an expensive MRI, even if your surgeon doesn't think of it himself. Do people really think orthopedists care about non surgical cases? In most instances now, you will see a PA or a FNP-C, not an orthopedist unless the PA or FNP-C deems you should.


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Bad knee wrote:

I've had minor-medium knee pain in my right knee for the last 5 weeks. I'm fairly certain it occurred because I ramped up my mileage too aggressively. I stopped running and cross trained a week after it happened. But every time I swam or biked, it would hurt and feel right afterwards. I haven't done any workouts or cross training or running for the past 4 weeks. I just want to run again at this point. My season is already ruined, I just want to get the mileage back up again.

The pain is very minimal now. When I wake up I feel nothing. As the day progresses I notice it starts aching when I must bend going up and down stairs. Also sitting in a desk then extending my leg will make me feel it. It really doesn't hurt much anymore which makes me think its somewhat healed. But it's still there and I'm angry because I know if I run again I will aggravate it.

When I am getting ready for bed I again feel virtually nothing. It's just from use during the day that I notice something is still wrong. Sometimes it feels right below the kneecap, sometimes right above. I've been doing straight leg raises and icing. Seems like it hasn't helped. I thought a month off would help it heal. Guess not which sucks...

It's not bad pain at all, just that I can't run and I can feel something wrong is ruining my quality of life. Do I go to my general doctor or should I go straight to a specialist? I don't want any bs, I just want to find the exact problem and the fix. It's hard to describe the problem currently so I'm worried ill need an MRI which is expensive. Idk how serious this is because it's lingered so long but it's never been severe pain, and it is not as bad as it was a few weeks ago.

Please help an injured runner. I just want to train again


Find an orthopedic surgeon in your area who specializes in knees and who treats many young, healthy athletes. You might find out, for example, who treats injured pro athletes in your area.

Make an appointment.

Ask for an MRI.

Until then, find another activity that does not aggravate the injury.
the trailblazer
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/2/2013 11:06AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Where is the pain in your knee? Is it under the kneecap, on the side of you knee, in the back, or on the inner side. The best I can guess from the lack of info is either you have runners knee or a meniscus tear.
Bad knee
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/2/2013 11:22AM - in reply to the trailblazer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
seems to be like in the back of the kneecap if that makes sense. like within it. like i said its hard to pinpoint the pain. i really didnt feel it at all yesterday since i didnt move around much. i have to run some errands today so i will see if i feel it. it was never on the outside or inner side during this injury. it has always felt like its been directly on the front of the knee cap. somewhat maybe right on the upper part of it when bending. but the pain, from what i can remember until i feel it again, is like its "within the kneecap" if that makes any sense at all.

so it looks like finding a good PT is my best bet. will the costs be high for this? thanks for all the assistance thus far
the trailblazer
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/2/2013 12:33PM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sounds like you have a problem with the patella, which can be a numerous armount of things. Such as runners knee, a patella fracture, or patella tendonitis.
plica boy
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/2/2013 12:57PM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've been having problems for about a month with medial knee pain. I could get it to calm down so it would stop hurting when I walked or went up or down stairs but every time I tried to run it would flare back up. So I've been cross training since the bike and eliptical don't hurt it. Anyway, I went to an orthopedic surgeon in my area who deals in sports medicine and he said it was my plica. Had surgery for it on Thurs and hopefully I will be back to running in a few weeks. Best advice, go to an orthopedic surgeon and have it looked at. Could be something they can fix quick and easy. My reg doc said it was over use syndrome but resting it didn't make it any better.
Bad knee
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/2/2013 7:18PM - in reply to plica boy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Went for an hour walk. Started feeling ache towards the very end. Jogged 200m home because I wanted to try and pinpoint the pain. Definitely not as bad as January. I'd feel it in couple steps back then and it was worse. When I stopped running right now. So it's like within the kneecap it feels when bending and pushing off so it's hard to say where on the cap. I'd still say kind of right on it. Also just a tiny tiny bit on the upper inside portion of the kneecap. But not side of leg.

So do I want a pt or orthopedic surgeon? Will they be able to figure it out based on what vague description I can give? I don't want to waste my money but I also realize my description isn't the best.

Lastly, does anyone know a good place in the Chicago area?
Pt in ny
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/3/2013 8:55AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not Chicago but in ny we have big apple chiro/therapy
Santefejack
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/3/2013 9:31AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I was once a runner, and looking back to then I probably had the same perspective most of you do now. That being said its so clear to me now

Bikram yoga five times a week for four weeks would GAURUNTEE your recovery, and help you realize how to prevent future injuries. But like I said so many runners are turned off by this, it's just funny cuz it's the only sure thing they're looking for they just don't have the cojones to do it, which is why they're injured in the first place I guess
Same boat
RE: Knee pain for a month, where to go? Need to get this fixed 2/3/2013 9:45AM - in reply to Bad knee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
osteochondritis dissecans
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