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Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 5:17PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Elite Men's 1 Mile Run
Place Athlete School Mark
1 Craig Miller New Balance 3:56.90
2 James Brewer New Balance 4:00.77
3 Michael Rutt NJ-NY TC 4:00.89
4 Jack Bolas New Balance 4:01.44
5 Liam Boylan-Pett NJ-NY TC 4:02.06
6 Tom Lancashire New Balance 4:03.41
7 Travis Mahoney NJ-NY TC 4:03.44
8 Mark Draper New Balance 4:05.28
9 Robbie Andrews adidas 4:11.13
10 Aidan Walsh NYAC 4:13.71
yess
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 5:25PM - in reply to what happened? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He did exactly what he said he's been doing. Taking advice from Alan Webb.

Shouts out to Michael Rutt
Just a guess
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 5:28PM - in reply to what happened? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He probably got tired.
what happened?
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 5:42PM - in reply to Just a guess Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Thanks so much!

Did he fall? Was he ever in contention or always off the back? Most certainly you have a clever response you want to type.
Mike M.
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 6:40PM - in reply to what happened? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Based on twitter, it sounded like he went out fast with the leaders and then died really hard. He doesn't seem to race well when he goes out fast.
truth sayer
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 7:58PM - in reply to Mike M. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
few more performances like these and his pro career will end.
Jrobinso
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 8:08PM - in reply to truth sayer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He is an 800 man, plain and simple.
Weary
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/26/2013 10:23PM - in reply to Jrobinso Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why is he Robbie instead of Robby now?
Rob with a Y
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 8:37AM - in reply to what happened? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Robby isn't used to going out in front like that. His legs felt dead after 800m and it just wasn't his race. compare him to the rest of the pro 1500 runners but Plain and simple Robby has 1:44 foot speed that not many others 1500 runners have and ultimately determines his potential. He just needs more experience. Remember, the kid is only 21 and getting used to professional racing. He's not some Oregon science project getting his butt wiped in Eugene. The kid knows how to race and is one of the most entertaining racers out there. In this sport, opportunities arise every week. He never had a slump in college (besides his injuries). He'll be back to putting on a show for us
Nope
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 8:52AM - in reply to Rob with a Y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I hear he has a hot new girlfriend ... Blondie
Chantry
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 10:24AM - in reply to Nope Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rust buster.

/thread
Trialswatcher
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 10:34AM - in reply to Chantry Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
First of all some of the comments on here are absurd.

He was never at the front, he was third behind moderate pace setting at 60+ and 1:59, and xero traffic issues

The most unsettling thing would be that after an easy 1:51 rust bustter, that they are so far off on gauging his fitness, In interview Andrews has said he has never been more fit.

Centro for example said he has not been this fit this early, but he gets a pass on euro travel, first real 1500/mile and it wasn't anything(3:40.xx 15) like Andrews' 4:11 with last 880 in 2:12.

One thing you cannot continue to do is chalk these up to "he is an 800 guy" as he really is not anymore, they have made that comittment upwards a while ago. This was also a backyard race with easy travel, Hard to figure, you can be that far off from a sub 4 thought to this?

Let's see what the 1000 looks like before hitting any panic buttons.
what happened?
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 11:28AM - in reply to Rob with a Y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
" Robby isn't used to going out in front like that. "

Thanks. So he led or the pace was hard? Do you know any splits?

Sorry about the ie as I just went from the result. And I am just looking for an answer, not ragging on his performance.
James Harden
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 11:35AM - in reply to what happened? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Any videos of this race anywhere?
Trialswatcher
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 11:57AM - in reply to what happened? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Andrews was in perfect position behind Miller and the pacesetter at about 1:59.x,and looked good then between there and roughly 1000M he started to back up and then some
Hhhgggfffrrr
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 9:46PM - in reply to Trialswatcher Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Barring the fact that he may be sick/some other ailment, it seems that Andrews just isn't doing enough mileage to be a competitive 1500m runner in these days of high mileage revival. High mileage means consistency. He's doing great work for an 800m runner, I'm sure, but last I heard, he did 35-50 in college. Miles make champions, and he doesn't have enough under him at this point.
longjack
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 10:55PM - in reply to Hhhgggfffrrr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
andrews could not handle the step up in volume of hard work.

andrews needs to take some time off and then go back to 800 m training formula from the past.

once he has re-established himself, then he can add on the volume - gradually - and go for 1500.
honeybunchesoats
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 10:58PM - in reply to longjack Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Turn off your mind. Just do it. Get some rest. Good night sweetheart.
5kays
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 11:07PM - in reply to Trialswatcher Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
rupp ran 3:57 (rust buster), then 3:50. centro ran 3:40 (roughly 3:57.6 rust buster) and will run...? we'll see. He said he's in phenomenal shape, might try for lagat's record and his coach is salazar. i would say he has a shot based on salazar's athlete's performances the last 18 months.. as far as andrews goes, 4:11 is lousy. he's probably mentally shattered right now but may have been running on heavy legs. it's only january


Trialswatcher wrote:

First of all some of the comments on here are absurd.

He was never at the front, he was third behind moderate pace setting at 60+ and 1:59, and xero traffic issues

The most unsettling thing would be that after an easy 1:51 rust bustter, that they are so far off on gauging his fitness, In interview Andrews has said he has never been more fit.

Centro for example said he has not been this fit this early, but he gets a pass on euro travel, first real 1500/mile and it wasn't anything(3:40.xx 15) like Andrews' 4:11 with last 880 in 2:12.

One thing you cannot continue to do is chalk these up to "he is an 800 guy" as he really is not anymore, they have made that comittment upwards a while ago. This was also a backyard race with easy travel, Hard to figure, you can be that far off from a sub 4 thought to this?

Let's see what the 1000 looks like before hitting any panic buttons.
Canada Coach
RE: Robbie Andrews 1/27/2013 11:52PM - in reply to 5kays Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Being in good shape and being ready to race, are two different things
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